On February 28, 2015 at 16:50 na...@ics-il.net (Mike Hammett) wrote: > Spoken by someone that apparently has no idea how things work.
Now there's a deep and insightful refutation. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry Shein" <b...@world.std.com> > To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:38:34 PM > Subject: Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality > > > Can we stop the disingenuity? > > Asymmetric service was introduced to discourage home users from > deploying "commercial" services. As were bandwidth caps. > > One can argue all sorts of other "benefits" of this but when this > started that was the problem on the table: How do we forcibly > distinguish commercial (i.e., more expensive) from non-commercial > usage? > > Answer: Give them a lot less upload than download bandwidth. > > Originally these asymmetric, typically DSL, links were hundreds of > kbits upstream, not a lot more than a dial-up line. > > That and NAT thereby making it difficult -- not impossible, the savvy > were in the noise -- to map domain names to permanent IP addresses. > > That's all this was about. > > It's not about "that's all they need", "that's all they want", etc. > > Now that bandwidth is growing rapidly and asymmetric is often > 10/50mbps or 20/100 it almost seems nonsensical in that regard, entire > medium-sized ISPs ran on less than 10mbps symmetric not long ago. But > it still imposes an upper bound of sorts, along with addressing > limitations and bandwidth caps. > > That's all this is about. > > The telcos for many decades distinguished "business" voice service > from "residential" service, even for just one phone line, though they > mostly just winged it and if they declared you were defrauding them by > using a residential line for a business they might shut you off and/or > back bill you. Residential was quite a bit cheaper, most importantly > local "unlimited" (unmetered) talk was only available on residential > lines. Business lines were even coded 1MB (one m b) service, one > metered business (line). > > The history is clear and they've just reinvented the model for > internet but proactively enforced by technology rather than studying > your usage patterns or whatever they used to do, scan for business ads > using "residential" numbers, beyond bandwidth usage analysis. > > And the CATV companies are trying to reinvent CATV pricing for > internet, turn Netflix (e.g.) into an analogue of HBO and other > premium CATV services. > > What's so difficult to understand here? > > -- > -Barry Shein > > The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com > Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada > Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo* -- -Barry Shein The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*
