Actually Bill... I have two (conflicting) perspectives as I said.... but to clarify:
1) A customer asked 'Can you make sure we have the IP for the network design' which I was wondering if it is even technically possible.... 2) If I design some amazing solutions... am I able to claim IP. My gut feeling is no to both of them... because, if it happen (VERY LIKELY) that somewhere, someone designs an network to the exact same specifications - to the config line - Would that mean they have infringed on my IP unknowingly, and how would I even know if I was unique in the first instance? What I am really looking for is some working, experience, precedence that backs up the view that IP on network design is actually not possible... which is my gut feeling. In the past I have always stated that, and it's never been challenged... and nor is it in this case... but, it is an important think I guess many of us should probably be aware of where we stand. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* eintellego Networks Pty Ltd Email: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Bill Woodcock <wo...@pch.net> wrote: > > I include a "no intellectual property ownership is transferred between the > Parties" clause in just about everything we do. Doesn't demand that any of > the questions you raise be answered, but shuts the door to problems pretty > firmly. > > > -Bill > > > > On Feb 12, 2015, at 17:20, Skeeve Stevens < > skeeve+na...@eintellegonetworks.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have two perspectives I am trying to address with regard to network > > design and intellectual property. > > > > 1) The business who does the design - what are their rights? > > > > 2) The customer who asked for the rights from a consultant > > > > My personal thoughts are conflicting: > > > > - You create networks with standard protocols, configurations, etc... so > it > > shouldn't be IP > > - But you can design things in interesting ways, with experience, skill, > > creativity.. maybe that should be IP? > > - But artwork are created with colors, paintbrushes, canvas... but the > > result is IP > > - A photographer takes a photo - it is IP > > - But how are 'how you do your Cisco/Juniper configs' possibly IP? > > - If I design a network one way for a customer and they want 'IP', does > > that mean I can't ever design a network like that again? What? > > > > I've seen a few telcos say that they own the IP related to the network > > design of their customers they deploy... which based on the above... > feels > > uncomfortable... > > > > I'm really conflicted on this and wondering if anyone else has come > across > > this situation. Perhaps any legal cases/precedent (note, I am not > looking > > for legal advice :) > > > > If this email isn't appropriate for the list... sorry, and please feel > free > > to respond off-line. > > > > ...Skeeve > > > > *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & Chief Network Architect* > > eintellego Networks Pty Ltd > > Email: ske...@eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com > > > > Phone: 1300 239 038 ; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve > > > > Facebook: eintellegonetworks <http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks> ; > > Twitter: eintellego <https://twitter.com/eintellego> > > > > LinkedIn: /in/skeeve <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: > Profile > > <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> > > > > > > The Experts Who The Experts Call > > Juniper - Cisco - Cumulus Linux - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering > >
