Hi Nick, All,

Thanks for the links. I'm glad to know people are working on this. I don't 
think anyone was suggesting that this was a new phenomenon. 

Someone wrote to this list about a particular incident and I shared details 
about how this was part of a larger IP squatting operation. Unique from other 
on-going IP squatting incidents that I'm aware of, this one was rather unique 
in its use of two unused ASNs to quickly cycle through various prefixes of 
(mostly) unused address space.

http://seclists.org/nanog/2014/Aug/513  (Aug 31)

It was disappointing to see someone claim the discovery of this IP squatting 
operation three days later without a reference to my detailed write-up in this 
public forum. This had been going for months, but only after I explained what 
had happened could this "discovery" take place.

http://www.bgpmon.net/using-bgp-data-to-find-spammers/  (Sep 3)

What is most interesting is that shortly before I wrote my email, the IP 
squatting operation had changed tactics. Although there are still some stale 
routes in circulation, the "57756 {43239, {3.721}" format is no longer the 
format being used. 

Since Saturday, the IP squatting operation has moved to the following route 
format:

        ... 44050 197598 {49121, 197794}        prefix

By the time of Andree's blog post on Wednesday, this new route format had been 
the main tactic for four days. He didn't pick up on the change - perhaps 
because I hadn't caught the change by the time I wrote my email this weekend. 
Maybe he can "discover" it now.

BTW, these routes are being universally accepted, so whatever technique we 
think we're employing to filter routes like this, it isn't working. 

Doug Madory
603-643-9300 x115
Hanover, NH
"The Internet Intelligence Authority"

On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Nick Feamster <feams...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:

> Hi Doug, All,
> 
> We’ve seen similar things, including hijacks of less specific IP prefixes 
> (even /8s), correlated with spam behavior.  
> 
> We presented on this at NANOG 35:
> http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog36/presentations/feamster.pdf
> 
> Slide 4 shows a short-lived BGP announcement for IP space that was the source 
> of spam.  Interestingly, many of the short-lived annoucements that we 
> observed were /8s.  Subsequent slides explain why.  Subsequent slides explain 
> these observations in more detail, and we had a paper in SIGCOMM’06 
> describing this activity in more detail:
> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~feamster/papers/p396-ramachandran.pdf
> 
> We have a couple of pieces of follow-up work:
> - It turns out that you can use BGP dynamics as features to design filters 
> for spam and other attack traffic (we have a couple of papers on this)
> - Some of these observable dynamics are also useful for establishing AS 
> reputation (a la Hostexploit) - we have some ongoing work here
> 
> Happy to talk more, either on-list or off-list.
> 
> Cheers,
> -Nick
> 
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Doug Madory <dmad...@renesys.com> wrote:
> 
>> FWIW, this is from an IP squatting operation I came across in recent weeks. 
>> I encounter these things regularly in the course of working with BGP data - 
>> probably others do too. Usually I look up the ASN or prefix and often it has 
>> already been added to someone's spam source list. When I see that, I assume 
>> the "system is working" and move on.
>> 
>> In this case, starting late Jun, we have seen IP address ranges from around 
>> the world (most ranges are unused, sometimes hijacked space) announced by 
>> one of two (formerly unused) ASNs and routed through another formerly unused 
>> ASN, 57756, then on to Anders (AS39792) and out to the Internet in the 
>> following form:
>> 
>>      ... 39792 57756 {3.721, 43239}  prefix
>> 
>> The prefixes are only routed for an hour or two before it moves on to the 
>> next range of IP address space. Not sure if this is for spam or something 
>> else. Either way, it is probably associated with something bad. Earlier this 
>> month I reached out to a contact at Anders in Russia and gave him some 
>> details about what was happening. I didn't get a response, but within a 
>> couple of days the routing (mostly) shifted from Anders to through 
>> Petersburg Internet Network (AS44050). I have no idea if this was due to my 
>> email. The day it moved to PIN I sent similar emails to addresses I could 
>> find at PIN, but haven't seen any response. Now the these routes take one of 
>> two forms:
>> 
>>      ... 39792 57756 {3.721, 43239}  prefix
>> 
>> Or
>> 
>>      ... 44050 57756 {3.721, 43239}  prefix
>> 
>> This is mostly routed through Cogent (AS174), but Anders (AS39792) also has 
>> a lot of peers. I would advise that people treat any route coming through 
>> AS57756 is probably bad. AS57756 doesn't originate anything and hasn't since 
>> 28-Jun when it very briefly hijacked some NZ space.
>> 
>> Also, Pierre-Antoine Vervier from Symantec gave a good talk at NANOG in Feb 
>> about IP squatting for spam generation. Pierre and I have since compared 
>> notes on this topic.
>> 
>> -Doug Madory
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tarun Dua" <li...@tarundua.net>
>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:55:25 PM
>>> Subject: Prefix hijacking, how to prevent and fix currently
>>> 
>>> AS Number 43239
>>> AS Name SPETSENERGO-AS SpetsEnergo Ltd.
>>> 
>>> Has started hijacking our IPv4 prefix, while this prefix was NOT in
>>> production, it worries us that it was this easy for someone to hijack
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> http://bgp.he.net/AS43239#_prefixes
>>> 
>>> 103.20.212.0/22 <- This belongs to us.
>>> 
>>> 103.238.232.0/22 KNS Techno Integrators Pvt. Ltd.
>>> 193.43.33.0/24 hydrocontrol S.C.R.L.
>>> 193.56.146.0/24 TRAPIL - Societe des Transports Petroliers par Pipeline
>>> 
>>> Where do we complain to get this fixed.
>>> 
>>> -Tarun
>>> AS132420
>>> 
>> 
> 

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