Hi Chris! @Ryan, XO was accurate, the peering connection between 6 and 7 is not congested, nor is it taking any sort of errors.
I took a look. The significant increase in rtt seems to happen between 7 and 8 (an Verizon LSP consisting of multiple physical routers). That hop traverses the continental US from San Jose to Philadelphia, so you would expect that, and I don't see anything going on in that path. The end to end rtt is pretty normal, and in any case, it shouldn't prevent your customers from connecting. I am not seeing any packet loss on that path. It's possible that whatever they saw was a transient issue and may be over now. So, please double check with your customers to verify that they still have problems. If so, continue to escalate the ticket. -- rj -----Original Message----- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:52 PM To: ryanruuska+na...@gmail.com Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Verizon connectivity issues On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Ryan Ruuska <ryanruuska+na...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > We have heard from many of our customers in the Northeast region, > specifically PA, MD, and VA who have difficulty connecting to our > website there's probably vz customer folk on-list, maybe 'what should they test for you' would be nice? :) > (very slow loading times). We have noticed that if our data center > provider specifically routes our outbound traffic over Hurricane > Electric rather than XO Communications, that connectivity is restored > to normal for our customers. The HE path goes from Salt Lake City to > Denver where it is handed off to TeliaSonera, and they send it to > Chicago where it gets handed off to Verizon. This works great and > generally has a ping response of 20-25ms less than the bad route as posted > below from one of our servers: > > Tracing route to pool-108-52-xxx-xxx.phlapa.fios.verizon.net > [108.52.xxx.xxx] > over a maximum of 30 hops: > > 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.xxx.xxx.xxx (Internal IP) > 2 <1 ms 10 ms <1 ms 209-41-xxx-xxx.c7dc.com [209.41.xxx.xxx] > 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms e1-5.rt08.gp1.c7dc.com [192.41.0.97] > 4 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms ip65-46-51-113.z51-46-65.customer.algx.net > [65.46.51.113] > 5 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms vb1611.rar3.sanjose-ca.us.xo.net > [216.156.0.5] > 6 21 ms 18 ms 18 ms 207.88.14.226.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.226] > 7 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 206.111.6.122.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.6.122] > >>>> Verizon owned device with an XO IP address > 8 87 ms 86 ms 87 ms b100.phlapa-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net > [130.81.209.187] > >>>> Next hop goes from CA to PA, probably just hidden routing info > 9 * * * Request timed out. > 10 88 ms 89 ms 90 ms pool-108-52-xxx-xxx.phlapa.fios.verizon.net > [108.52.xxx.xxx] > > As you can see, XO sends this traffic from Salt Lake City to San Jose > where it is handed off to Verizon. We've worked with XO and > determined that there are no connectivity issues along their path, > which seems to point to an issue within Verizon's network. I have a > couple of tickets open with Verizon at the moment on behalf of some of > our customers, but we have had trouble breaking through Tier 1. > > Our first thought was saturation of the peering point, but XO states > that the link between hops 6 and 7 is using 5Gbps out of 20Gbps > capacity, and the latency on hop 7 (the Verizon owned device with an > XO IP) seems normal whenever we test. > > Any Verizon engineers out there willing to take a quick peek at this > route for any obvious issues? It would be a lot easier for us if > Verizon provided Looking Glass servers, but alas... they have route data sent to routeviews at least...