Someone was telling me this weekend their entire network is native dual stack now. I haven't had a chance to confirm it yet, but he said they are issuing /60's to residential users using DHCPv6.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -ITG (ITechGeek) i...@itechgeek.com https://itg.nu/ GPG Keys: https://itg.nu/contact/gpg-key Preferred GPG Key: Fingerprint: AB46B7E363DA7E04ABFA57852AA9910A DCB1191A Google Voice: +1-703-493-0128 / Twitter: ITechGeek / Facebook: http://fb.me/Jbwa.Net On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > My understanding is that almost all of the Comcast network is now IPv6 > capable. > > Owen > > On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Ryan Shea <ryans...@google.com> wrote: > > > Not sure I've seen any evidence (or implied) that the tunnel was the > > problem. My issue as far as I know is at the application layer and other > > end-user experiences seemed a reasonable way to pick a direction. I will > > work with HE though and provide them some details. > > > > Agreed, from an end-user perspective it can be often be clear as mud > > whether I am using v6, or whether my Chromecast or Android device even > > implements happy eyeballs. The relatively new "experiencing problems?" > > butter bar that shows up beneath a video with notable buffering problems > > (even at low quality levels) sends the user through to details about the > > service provider, in this case HE. Over the past couple years YouTube has > > been my canary to know when I've received a new IP from Verizon and I > need > > to go fix my tunnel -- video loading takes fuuuuuuuurever on > > Android/Chromecast/GoogleTV (which hints that happy eyeballs, if it > exists > > for Android, isn't working so well for the YouTube app). > > > > I can't get native v6 at my home -- I'm probably not in a particularly > > unique situation. Not to rathole the dicsussion, but as far as I know > (save > > for some small DSL providers) unless I'm in a gFiber city or happen to be > > in the portion of the Comcast network that provides native v6 I'm out of > > luck. I don't plan on moving to solve this problem. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Jeroen Massar <jer...@massar.ch> > wrote: > > > >> On 2014-08-20 18:21, Ryan Shea wrote: > >>> IRC is a good suggestion, thanks. They'll likely be helpful. > >>> > >>> I see no indication of any throttling from my ISP - I can blast data at > >>> full speed to my home from my server and work (with native v6 > >>> connections). > >> > >> Does that path between your $home and $server go over the tunnel you > >> find so "slow"? > >> > >> If so, then you have just nicely excluded that the tunnel is NOT the > >> problem. > >> > >> Hence, why traceroutes would be so extremely useful. > >> > >> > >>> Contacting my ISP (Verizon FiOS) is virtually never a > >>> reasonable path to a solution. > >> > >> google(Verizon FiOS throttle) = 71.900 results. One would almost think > >> that there might sometimes be issues there. > >> > >> Also, do realize that the IPv6 path you are using goes over a shared > >> host (the Tunnel Broker PoP) that has IPv4 and IPv6 capacity that might > >> be shared in various points of the paths your packets cross. > >> > >> Did you test at the same time of your "blast data" that the IPv6 Youtube > >> was working fine? > >> > >> Another thing, as browsers now do "Happy Eyeballs" (which is really > >> horrible to diagnose issues with on OSX), did you check if everything is > >> really going over IPv6? (hence the tcpdump/wireshark). > >> > >> [..] > >>> To be clear, I was seeking opinions/experiences on a list that was > >>> likely to have a high occurrence of folk with v6 tunnels. > >> > >> Tunnels are for endusers who still are at ISPs who don't do IPv6 > natively. > >> > >> NANOG has operators who have been running native IPv6 for over a decade. > >> > >> Hence, StackExchange might be useful for your purpose. > >> > >>> You have > >>> etiquette suggestions, but not YouTube over tunnelbroker suggestions. I > >>> apparently bring out your inner grump? Do you need a hug? > >> > >> My cat videos are streaming perfectly fine... > >> > >>> Burning Google engineering time would be a sub-optimal way to get HD > cat > >>> videos at home with the least time spent. > >> > >> Interesting, I was not aware they did not care about their eyeballs. > >> > >> Actually I am very confident lots of folks there would love to dig into > >> your issue to actually resolve it. As when it is hitting you, it might > >> hit other customers. > >> > >> Is that also not why there is this huge SRE department with lots of IPv6 > >> knowledgeable folks? > >> > >> Greets, > >> Jeroen > >> > >> > >
