On Jul 21, 2014, at 18:25 , Miles Fidelman <mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote:

> goe...@anime.net wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>> - the anti-muni laws hurt small localities the most, where none of the big 
>>> players have any intent of deploying anything
>> 
>> This is exacatly why ashland fiber network came to be. Because no provider 
>> was willing to step up and provide service. So the city did it.
>> 
>> If there were laws against it there, then ashland would still have no 
>> service at all to this day.
>> 
> 
> Is that Ashland, Oregon?  I did some consulting on that project. The way it 
> started was:
> - They needed to run a pair of fibers from City Hall to an out-building
> - US West (I think) quoted $5k/month/fiber, at which point,
> - the Mayor asked the director of the muni electric utility "what would it 
> cost to run some fiber"
> - after some head scratching and some research, it came down to $100,000, one 
> time - mostly for the tooling and some training (they had the poles, bucket 
> trucks, linesman who were rated to work near live electric wires who were 
> sitting around waiting for the next storm to hit)
> - after that, it was a no-brainer to start expanding the network
> 
> The cool thing about the project:
> - Ashland has a bunch of places that do Hollywood post-production - they eat 
> up tons of bandwidth shipping stuff around - really great for that segment

No to mention a wonderful Shakespeare festival, a number of very nice 
restaurants with good food and a pretty neat downtown to explore.

Need to get back up there... It's been a few years, but it's a lovely place to 
visit.

Owen

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