I said I would step away, but trying to keep some level of emotion out of 
this...  We all need "rational actor" behavior in the ecosystem. We need our 
policies and agree to live up to those policies between players. Random and 
inconsistent behavior does not build a well functioning market and is the root 
of most disputes

We can argue about what the policy should be, the impacts, etc and that is a 
fair discussion.

      - Kevin

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On May 15, 2014, at 2:11 PM, "Livingood, Jason" 
<jason_living...@cable.comcast.com<mailto:jason_living...@cable.comcast.com>> 
wrote:

So by extension, if you enter an agreement and promise to remain balanced you 
can just willfully throw that out and abuse the heck out of it? Where does it 
end? Why even bother having peering policies at all then?

To use an analogy, if you and I agree to buy a car together and agree to switch 
off who uses it every other day, can I just say "forget our agreement – I’m 
just going to drive the car myself every single day – its all mine”?

And as you say, “interestingly enough only Comcast and Verizon are having this 
problem” someone else might say “interestingly enough one content distributor 
is at the center of all of these issues.” I’m frankly surprised that no one is 
stepping back to try to understand what was and is driving those changes.

Jason

On 5/15/14, 1:43 PM, "Nick B" <n...@pelagiris.org<mailto:n...@pelagiris.org>> 
wrote:

Yes, throttling an entire ISP by refusing to upgrade peering is clearly a way 
to avoid technically throttling.  Interestingly enough only Comcast and Verizon 
are having this problem, though I'm sure now that you have set an example 
others will follow.
Nick

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