And the "unbalanced" peers / transit?

-Blake

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:41 AM, McElearney, Kevin
<kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
> This is a smart group. If if that was true I think every internet site / 
> service one visits from home would be a negatively impacted.  That is not the 
> case
>
> As I said before, Comcast also has over 40 balanced peers with plenty of 
> capacity.  Wholesale $$ are very small, highly competitive and only "skin in 
> the game" to promote efficiencies
>
>       - Kevin
>
>
>> On May 15, 2014, at 12:01 PM, "Jared Mauch" <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On May 15, 2014, at 11:50 AM, McElearney, Kevin 
>>> <kevin_mcelear...@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is no gaming on measurements and disputes are isolated and temporary 
>>> with issues not unique over the history of the internet.  I think all the 
>>> same rhetorical quotes continue to be reused
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> in the past most issues were transient for a few months as both sides got 
>> complaints, but while at RIPE earlier this week someone commented to me: 
>> there's no one provider you can buy access from to get a packet-loss free 
>> connection to all their other business partners/customers.  This hurts the 
>> entire marketplace when there is persistent congestion.
>>
>> Some of these issues are related to (as Craig called them) "Hypergiants" 
>> (OTT) but others are due to providers having poor capital models so they 
>> don't have "budget" for upgrading unless someone pays for that upgrade, vs 
>> seeing their existing customer base as that source for the capital.
>>
>> As an engineer, I'm hopeful that those responsible for budgeting will do the 
>> right thing.  As a greedy capitalist, please pay me more $$$.  It does feel 
>> a bit like tic-tac-toe with zero players in wargames though, the only way to 
>> win is to not play [games].
>>
>> - Jared
>>

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