On 3/24/14 9:12 PM, "Bob Evans" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I agree with "one" thing herein.... > >> In order for IPv6 to truly work, everyone needs to be moving towards >>IPv6. > >Yep, chicken and the egg. I agree. We built an IPv6 "native" network - no >tunneling - no customers to speak of ... didn't even bother to start IPv6 >peering on it. How would there be traffic if you have no peering? > >An there you have it, how much is someone willing to pay for space in the >Internet casino. Well, it's much more than free and probably close to the >dollar level in the presentation by Lee Howard at an ARIN meeting (I think >it was in Barbados or maybe I have that meeting place wrong and it was >NANOG) ... Well, $40/month per IP address will be the pain level for all >customers to finally cash-in the IPv4 chips and move to IPv6. I wish it was Barbados! NANOG56. http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog56/presentations/Wednesday/wed.general.h oward.24.wmv > >Thus far, IPv6 has been the "Field of Dreams" .... those of us who have >built it, we know they have not yet come (the IPv6 customers). That's >all this discussion is really about is "when will they come". Some of us have quite a few IPv6 customers: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/ And we see significant traffic from those users. :-) > >I know the core of the Internet will be IPv4 for many years. All one has >to do is talk to a few customer to find out that they are in no hurry. >It's a no-brainer, because , none of us charges a customer more than than >lunch money for an IPv4 address. Depends on what you mean by "core." For some values of "core," the Internet is already dual-stack. > >Now, if you tell me all the porn site owners were great net citizens, >ready to move to IPv6 and shut off IPv4 access, well then I can see things >moving along much faster. Feel free to offer them a discount for dual-stack, and a deeper discount for IPv6-only. Unfortunately, I don't know any porn site operators, so I haven't been able to have conversations with them about the economics of IPv6. Lee
