On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Carsten Bormann <c...@tzi.org> wrote: > On 22 Feb 2014, at 08:47, Saku Ytti <s...@ytti.fi> wrote: > >> I'm surprised MinimaLT and QUIC have have not put transport area people in >> high gear towards standardization of new PKI based L4 protocol, I think its >> elegant solution to many practical reoccurring problem, solution which has >> become practical only rather recently. > > Oh, the transport area people *are* in their high gear. > Their frantic movements may just seem static to you as they operate on more > drawn-out time scales. > (The last transport protocol I worked on became standards-track 16 years > after I started working on it.) > > At this IETF, there will be a "Transport Services" BOF to help find out what > exactly the services are that a new transport protocol should provide to the > applications. Research platforms such as QUIC, tcpcrypt, MINION etc. are > very much in the focus of attention. > > This time, it would be nice if the operations people got to have a say early > on in what gets standardized. > (Just be careful not to try to "fight yesterday's war".) > > Grüße, Carsten > >
yesterday's war = don't bring up that operators are having a real problem with UDP, and that operators have and will continue to block it? Because, i think that is what this thread is about. i did bring yesterday's war to the IETF RTCWweb group and got the expected answer My concern: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg11425.html Summary IETF response: The problem i described is already solved by bcp38, nothing to see here, carry on with UDP https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg11477.html CB
