On Feb 3, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Michael DeMan <na...@deman.com> wrote:

> I meant mostly that with IPv6 NAT goes away,

I don't know if this is true or not - and even if it is true, it's going to be 
a long, long time before the IPv4 Internet goes away (like, maybe, pretty much 
forever, heh).

> An NTPv5 solution that could be done with NTP services already, and would be 
> more of a 'best practices of how this shit starts up and what it can do' and 
> educating vendors to have reasonable behavior in the first place?

Yes, but that's many years away, and doesn't address legacy issues.

> And an NTPv6 solution/RFC/guideline that was similar, could help?

Again, many years away, and doesn't address legacy issues.

> I disagree that 'filtering' or 'blocking' any kind of IPv4 or IPv6 protocol 
> to 'protect the end user' is the wrong way to go when compared to just having 
> things work in a secure manner.

Yes, but since the latter part of this statement is unattainable in the 
foreseeable future, the idea is actually to protect *the rest of the Internet* 
from misconfigured CPE.

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