Roland, I did fail to mention the HUMINT (Human Intelligence) side of things, thank you for bringing that up!
-- Thank you, Robert Miller http://www.armoredpackets.com Twitter: @arch3angel On 12/30/13, 11:33 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, [AP] NANOG <na...@armoredpackets.com> wrote: > >> Then looking at things from the evil side though, if they owned the system >> which provides the signing then they could sign >> virtually anything they wish. > Or if they owned *people* with the right level of access to do so, or if > there were implementation bugs which could be utilized to bypass or obviate > the signing . . . > > None of the alleged capabilities described in the purported documents is > really standalone; they all rely upon other methods/mechanisms in order to > provide the required foundation to accomplish their stated goals. > >> I think we need to watch and listen/read over the coming weeks and months >> before we go assuming we have it figured out. > This is the most pertinent and insightful comment made in this thread. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Roland Dobbins <rdobb...@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> > > Luck is the residue of opportunity and design. > > -- John Milton > > >