I got there because of a FireFox cert reject. You are losing money. -- Phones are not computers and suck for email
Matthew Walker <mwal...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >Randy, > >Thanks for the concern -- if I understand your email correct the issue >is >not that you cannot resolve donate.wikimedia.org; but it's that one of >our >subdomains resolves to something that's not a WMF server? > >If so; the behavior you're seeing, that >links.email.donate.wikimedia.org goes >to ?.mkt41.net is correct. What we're doing is year is using an >external >bulk mailer to try and ensure deliverability of fundraising mail (it >turns >out that we get about $1 per email so getting good deliverability is >pretty >important.) The bulk mailer, Silverpop, does link rewriting in the body >of >the email for use statistical things (we A/B test our emails and use >their >dashboards to do so). > >For what its worth our donor rights policy [1] applies to this type of >data. > >[1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donor_policy > >~Matt Walker >Wikimedia Foundation >Fundraising Technology Team > > >On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > >> leslie, you out there? >> >> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> host links.email.donate.wikimedia.org. >> links.email.donate.wikimedia.org is an alias for recp.mkt41.net. >> recp.mkt41.net has address 74.121.50.40 >> >> $ dscacheutil -flushcache >> >> does not clear it >> >> this is all in tokyo. so i ssh into a server in seattle westin. >> >> psg.com:/usr/home/randy> host links.email.donate.wikimedia.org. >> links.email.donate.wikimedia.org is an alias for recp.mkt41.net. >> recp.mkt41.net has address 74.121.50.40 >> >> the real or unreal CNAME RR is pretty prevalent >> >> pretoria >> >> root@afnog:~ # host links.email.donate.wikimedia.org. >> links.email.donate.wikimedia.org is an alias for recp.mkt41.net. >> recp.mkt41.net has address 74.121.50.40 >> >> london starts to scare me >> >> drinx.linx.net:/root# host links.email.donate.wikimedia.org. >> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached >> drinx.linx.net:/root# host links.email.donate.wikimedia.org. >> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached >> >> so i look at the nearest zone i can find >> >> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> doc -p -w donate.wikimedia.org. >> Doc-2.2.3: doc -p -w donate.wikimedia.org. >> Doc-2.2.3: Starting test of donate.wikimedia.org. parent is >> wikimedia.org. >> Doc-2.2.3: Test date - Tue Nov 26 10:46:48 JST 2013 >> SYSerr: No servers for donate.wikimedia.org. returned SOAs ... >> Summary: >> YIKES: doc aborted while testing donate.wikimedia.org. parent >> wikimedia.org. >> Incomplete test for donate.wikimedia.org. (1) >> Done testing donate.wikimedia.org. Tue Nov 26 10:46:49 JST 2013 >> >> at least the parent is ok >> >> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> doc -p -w wikimedia.org. >> Doc-2.2.3: doc -p -w wikimedia.org. >> Doc-2.2.3: Starting test of wikimedia.org. parent is org. >> Doc-2.2.3: Test date - Tue Nov 26 10:47:45 JST 2013 >> Summary: >> No errors or warnings issued for wikimedia.org. >> Done testing wikimedia.org. Tue Nov 26 10:47:48 JST 2013 >> >> aha! >> >> ryuu.psg.com:/Users/randy> ns donate.wikimedia.org. >> donate-lb.eqiad.wikimedia.org. >> >> i suspect a load balancer >> >> yes, i reported this to wikimedia two days ago. a response, then >black >> hole. problem persists. >> >> randy >> >>
