On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote: > > Anyone familiar with secure organizations > > there are such things? > > we should be more cautious with absolutes, usually :) >
Nothing is absolute, but there are certainly "white" organizations which have no attempt to be secure, and much greyer ones where it's a big deal in organizational process and ethos. A Snowden once a decade or so is not a bad record. Unfortunately, we ... hoped ... they were the good guys, not the bad guys. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com