LOL, we'll move the taps one layer down ... -J
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Eugen Leitl <eu...@leitl.org> wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Bill Woodcock <wo...@pch.net> ----- > > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:25:13 -0700 > From: Bill Woodcock <wo...@pch.net> > To: liberationtech <liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu> > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Brazil Looks to Break from U.S.-Centric > Internet > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) > Reply-To: liberationtech <liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu> > > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:28 AM, David Johnson <david.john...@aljazeera.net> > wrote: > > > Interesting ... but is this even possible? > > > http://world.time.com/2013/09/18/brazil-looks-to-break-from-u-s-centric-internet/ > > Well, there are a bunch of different concepts being discussed. The > primary one is localization of routing, which isn't just possible, it's > best-practice, and something Brazil has been doing an excellent job of > already for quite a few years. If you look at > https://pch.net/applications/ixpdir/summary/ you'll see that they've got > 23 active exchanges, which puts them second in the world after the U.S., > with 77% annualized growth, compared to 10% in the U.S. If you look at the > Brazil section of https://pch.net/ixpdir you'll see that almost all of > that growth has been occurring since they made it an explicit policy goal > in 2008, and began aggressively implementing IXP best-practices. > > At a governance level, Brazil is divided. The CGI, which decides and > implements domestic Internet policy, is the agency responsible for all this > growth and best-practices-following. As such, they've been largely aligned > with OECD-country and Internet interests. The Brazilian federal > government, on the other hand, sets foreign policy, interacts with the ITU, > et cetera. And so although it has no appreciable influence over what > happens _within_ the country, it's what's seen by other national > governments in diplomatic circles. In Internet governance, Brazil tends > toward this Brazil-India-South Africa axis, which doesn't particularly > align with the Internet or OECD countries, unless by accident. This is the > area that Internet folks are most worried about, since those three > countries are second-tier thought-leaders in the ITU, and can swing a lot > of developing-country votes in their respective regions. So Brazil is, in > many ways, the U.S.' opposite: they do the right thing domestically, but > say the wrong thing internationally. > > -Bill > > > > > > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations > of list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > -- > Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org > ______________________________________________________________ > ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org > AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5 >