On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Aaron Wendel <aa...@wholesaleinternet.net>wrote:
> On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Richard Golodner wrote: > >> On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 09:36 -1000, Randy Bush wrote: >> >>> in >>> fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat. >>> >> >> Why I love open source. Look at my mail, track my web site >> visits. None >> of this should come as any surprise, especially to the members of this >> list. Now for the guy down the street that is working on his 69 Camaro >> at two in the morning it may have come as a shock. >> Richard >> >> >> > We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under > a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. These companies gave the > NSA access to their systems voluntarily. To me there is a big difference. > I would be interested to know what they got out of it. > > It was far from voluntary, and it apparently didn't happen without a lot of resistance. At least some details of the long, hard fight that started five years ago are finally being allowed to be declassified now: http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/16/technology/security/yahoo-fisa-court/index.html http://mashable.com/2013/07/16/yahoo-fisa-court-2008-prism/ It will be interesting to see how much of the court documents will be visible and unredacted when they are released on Monday. Matt