Wink wink
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/07/startup-palantir-denies-its-prism-software-is-the-nsas-prism-surveillance-system/



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Jason L. Sparks" <jlspa...@gmail.com>
Date: 06/07/2013 1:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com>,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project


I assume the unclassified word "Prism" (which is found everywhere on IC resumes 
and open job descriptions) refers to Palantir's Prism suite.  Could be wrong, 
but seems logical.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Bailey 
<wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com<mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>>
 wrote:
Has anyone found out if this system is actually based on Narus? I associated 
this program as a super version of the AT&T thing, and if I recall it was 
understood that was Narus and Co via NSA/FBI?


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-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com<mailto:j...@baylink.com>>
Date: 06/07/2013 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" 
> <valdis.kletni...@vt.edu<mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu>>

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:57:07 -0700, Mark Seiden said:
> > and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do
> > anything like this addressing even a single provider for that little money.
>
> Convince me the *real* number doesn't have another zero.
>
> Remember - the $20M number came from a source that has *very* good
> reason to lie as much as it can right now about the true extent of this.

Indeed.  Luckily, the press is all over this like a bad smell.

I mentioned The Story in a new posting just now; they have, surprisingly,
already managed to dig at this spot, a pretty quick response for them:

http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-06/americans-spying-americans

Cheers,
-- jra
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