"No attempt to hide the source IP" "I mean, they were using a shared hosting plan"
What makes you certain it was DHS? Genuinely curious, because this is a hell of a claim. -- Jason On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.des...@gmail.com>wrote: > Would it be futile though? I mean...DHS running a DOS against an > American organization is the kind of stuff that makes Constitutional > lawyers salivate. > > I'm not trying to call you out, btw. I'm genuinely curious why the > hosting company itself didn't file suit. You've got a US Government > agency abusing your resources and acting in a blatantly illegal > manner. That's the kind of stuff that results in letters of > resignation when publicized. > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Charles Wyble > <charles-li...@knownelement.com> wrote: > > Yes. I'm aware of that. It would be futile in most cases, which is a > huge problem in and of itself, as that's really the only recourse. > > > > I mean they were using a shared hosting plan. Not exactly deep pocketed. > > > > My point is that the abuse of power is blatant and they are unafraid of > any kind of retaliation. They don't need to hide. > > > > Mike Hale <eyeronic.des...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>"Sue them?" > >>Uhm...yes? That's why we have courts that we can sue federal agencies > >>in. > >> > >>On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Charles Wyble > >><charles-li...@knownelement.com> wrote: > >>> No proxy needed. No need to hide. > >>> > >>> While working for a very large hosting company, I once observed DHS > >>hammering an occupy related website. No attempt to hide the source ip > >>or anything. > >>> > >>> What are you going to do? Sue them? If they wish to take a site > >>offline, they will ddos it or simply seize the domain under the > >>national security banner. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "<<"tei''>>>" <oscar.vi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>>On 20 May 2013 01:58, Michael Painter <tvhaw...@shaka.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>> > http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/ddos-for-hire-service-works-with-blessing-of-fbi-operator-says/ > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>More on the same topic. > >>>> > http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/05/ragebooter-legit-ddos-service-or-fed-backdoor/#more-19475 > >>>> > >>>>Maybe the FBI use this to commit crimes in USA using a foreign > >>company > >>>>as proxy so nothing dirty show on the books. That way the FBI can > >>>>avoid respecting USA laws. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>-- > >>>>ℱin del ℳensaje. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Charles Wyble > >>> char...@knownelement.com / 818 280 7059 > >>> CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org) > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > > > > -- > > Charles Wyble > > char...@knownelement.com / 818 280 7059 > > CTO Free Network Foundation (www.thefnf.org) > > > > -- > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 > >
