On May 14, 2013, at 15:53 , Jean-Francois Mezei <jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> >> http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/ >> >> they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not >> affecting these numbers and their pertinence to the "backbone" at all, >> or not much. > > > This is from a Sandvine press release. Sandvine measures traffic at the > last mile, so it doesn't really know whether a Netflix stream is coming > from a local caching server within the carrier's LAN, from a caching > server that is peering with the carrier, or via the real internet. > > In the case of a large ISP with a Netflix cache server accessible > locally, (either in-house, or via peering at a local carrier hotel), the > traffic doesn't really travel on the internet.
Since when is peering not part of the Internet? Since when is even on-net caches not part of the Internet? I always thought if I am on the Internet, anything I ping is "on the Internet". (I am intentionally ignoring things like split tunnel VPN nodes.) Perhaps you think of the "Internet" as the "tier ones" or something? > But for smaller ISPs, the traffic will travel on the internet between > the nearest cache server and their facilities. I guess you assume smaller ISPs don't peer? Unfortunately, reality disagrees with you, 100s if not 1000s of times. Still confused about this whole notion, though. Perhaps you can clarify? > Because of caching, the load on the actual internet won't increase as > much as the amoount streamed onto last mile infrastructure. Uh.... I give up. -- TTFN, patrick