On 9 February 2013 22:49, Keith Medcalf <kmedc...@dessus.com> wrote: > > Most of these networks are provided by "Internet Marketing Companies". In > exchange for free-reign in data harvesting and data capture/logging/tracking > and advertisement/javascript insertion in web pages (etc), the hotel gets to > offer "free" internet connections. Often the Hotel Internet is a profit > center for the Hotel, the "Internet Company" paying the Hotel for > unrestricted diddling rights to the unsuspecting guests traffic. > > Same applies to almost every business that offers "free complimentary > internet connections" ... > > Occasionally you run into a Hotel that offers a quality and clean internet > connection, however, these are few and far between ...
Several 2.5* / 3* hotel managers I spoke with volunteered, implied or confirmed that they're paying on the order of 2k$/mo for "internet" in Northern California. And at least in the US, I'm yet to encounter a complementary WiFi at any hotel that would be doing JavaScript insertion, so I'm not sure where you get your information that the free internet always means ads or a very high level of tampering. One of my prior residential ISPs, Embarq, arguably did more tampering and data mining with my connection than any of the hotels I have ever stayed at. (I'm talking about DNS hijacking.) Now. Notice that these hotels are already paying 2k$/mo and getting 10Mbps, which residentially retails at 40$/mo. How much will 100Mbps cost them? What, still 2k/mo? What are they waiting for? Or, pardon my residential bias, but are some of them still using T1's? Don't those cost a fortune? Wouldn't they actually save their money by going elsewhere? I hear microwave links are pretty popular these days, and offer great bandwidth and latency. C. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, 09 February, 2013 23:23 >> To: Constantine A. Murenin >> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group >> Subject: Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network >> >> "why do the sub-contracted internet support companies design and >> support such broken-by-design setups?" >> >> Because they don't know any better and lack the technical clue on how >> to implement a network that can support a hotel-full (or half-full) of >> people... >> >> But i'm sure they all have their MCSEs and CCNAs so they are qualified :) >> >> -mike >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 9, 2013, at 19:57, "Constantine A. Murenin" <muren...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > why do the sub-contracted internet support >> > companies design and support such broken-by-design setups?
