Sure. I assume it on real wire centers, I don't on RSUs or carrier. Luckily it's easy to tell which is which, in most cases.
Walter Keen <walter.k...@rainierconnect.net> wrote: >In the US, any incumbent phone carrier (ILEC), is required to have POTS >lines on a power infrastructure capable of sustaining at least an 8 >hour interruption in commercial power, whether it's in a remote or >central office. Most companies use batteries at remotes (and put >portable generators out when needed) and have permanent generators at >central offices > > >I know this is not the exact wording, but in the US at least, it's >required by the FCC. I can't remember if competitive local exchange >carriers (CLEC) have the same requirements. > >Your local carrier may or may not be in compliance with having >(battery/generator) there to sustain 8 hours of operation, and I doubt >they would tell you details of their power systems. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jay Ashworth" <j...@baylink.com> >To: "Walter Keen" <walter.k...@rainierconnect.net>, "William Herrin" ><b...@herrin.us> >Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 4:09:25 PM >Subject: Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list > >The issue wasn't diversity, it was "is my POTS on Central Battery"; >sorry for the comparative red herring. >- jra > > >Walter Keen <walter.k...@rainierconnect.net> wrote: > > >I work for a rural Telecom in northwest US. > > >Typically when I hear statements like that, it's that the tech built >(strung aerially, trenched through ground, or through buried conduit) >from a pedestal or other copper splice point to the customer premise. > > >I would only expect this to go to the nearest remote terminal, or >central office if there is no rem ote terminal. In a lot of (rural) >cases, there is no direct copper between most houses and the central >office, instead they have to (in most cases, depending on what copper >cabling is available you are only able to reach one remote) cable you >to the closest remote that has equipment, where you are aggregated and >back-hauled (typically via fiber, but sometimes by T1) to the central >office. > > >If someone wanted completely physical diversity, up to the point of the >CO, you would have to ask (likely a few times, and possibly being >escalated to an engineering department of sorts) if your new POTS line >can be homed to a different remote, or directly to the CO, ideally on a >different physical cable route, assuming your goal is backhoe >diversity. > > >For a business line, they may be willing to work with you on diversity >requirements. > > >About the only way to guess if you're connected to a RSU or directly to >the CO, you would have to know where the CO is, guess the approximate >copper distance to it (which may involve guessing the approximate path >the cable goes) and then hook up some equipment to your POTS line that >measures and estimates the distance of that copper pair. Then you can >guess where you might be connected to. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "William Herrin" <b...@herrin.us> >< b>To: "Jay Ashworth" <j...@baylink.com> >Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> >Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:30:48 PM >Subject: Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list > >On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> wrote: >> You are suggesting that it is *at all* difficult for a technically >competent >> end-user to determine whether a given new POTS line will go to a CO >or to an RSU? > >Well, let me treat this as an opportunity to learn. How does one >arrange for a POTS line ordered from the telco to travel its own >dedicated copper pair all the way back to the central office building >if the the tech tells you he only built it from one of the local holes >in the ground? > >Regards, >Bill Herrin > > > > >-- >Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
