On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Keith Medcalf <kmedc...@dessus.com> wrote:
> Your assertion that using "bought" certificates provides any security benefit 
> whatsoever assumes facts not in evidence.
>
> Given recent failures in this space I would posit that the requirement to use 
> certificates purchased from entities "under the thumb" of government control, 
> clearly motivated only by profit, and with highly questionable moral and 
> ethical standards represents a huge increase in risk of passive attack and 
> confidentiality failure where such rosk did not previously exist.
>

backing up some, I think the problem trying to be solved by requiring
'legitimate' certificates is stopping the obvious problems of mitm
attacks, ala mallory-proxy.

in the longer term, if the client can know that the server was
supposed to present a cert with fingerprint XFOOBYFOOB and it can see
that fingerprint for the cert presented in the session we all win,
right?

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