On Dec 5, 2012, at 15:07 , Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/12/2012 2:11 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> On 2012-12-05 14:01, Tom Taylor wrote: >>> I'm seriously not clear why Y.2770 is characterized as "negotiated >>> behind closed doors". Any drafts were available to all participants in >>> the ITU-T, on exactly the same terms as drafts of other Recommendations. >>> As an example, the draft coming out of the October, 2011 meeting can be >>> seen at http://www.itu.int/md/T09-SG13-111010-TD-WP4-0201/en. (I have >>> access delegated by a vendor to whom I have been consulting, by virtue >>> of their membership in the ITU-T.) >> >> So, how exactly can most people on for instance this list access that >> URL? You yourself would not be able to access it where it not that you >> found some loophole setup. >> > ... > Agreed that the ITU-T is a membership organization, but the Questions and > Study Group work programs are open to view (Q. 17/13 specifically covers DPI, > and has more documents coming down the pipe). If you want to follow some > Question you can probably get access through your government (State Dept. in > the US, Dept. of Communications in Canada). The membership rules don't apply > so stringently to Rapporteurs' meetings, so you can get in touch with the > Rapporteur of a Question you are interested in and find out where to get > copies of documents contributed into those meetings. > > All this is by the by -- you are more likely to be affected by the IETF than > by anything coming out of the ITU-T. I am affected by ITU-T every day. I use telephones. I am a Ham radio operator. I am a pilot. I use international digital circuits. All of these things are affected by ITU-T. Yes, anyone willing to expend enough effort and/or resources can get behind many of the closed doors for a non-participatory role in ITU process. To become participatory, you must be a government or invited by a government as part of their delegation. Contrasting this to the openness of the IETF, ICANN, and the RIRs, I think there is a pretty strong case to be made that the ITU is a closed-door process by comparison. Owen
