In message <cfb0f4de-3e7e-4cc2-a491-3b0e9741c...@arbor.net>, "Dobbins, Roland" 
writes:
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Bj=F8rn Mork wrote:
> 
> > But I will absolutely refuse the idea that anyone incapable of getting 
> their application tested with IPv6 are able to create any useful 
> networking software.
> 
> Who's talking about 'networking software'? 

Read the Subject.

> 'Networking software' is irrelevant for the vast majority of the 
> userbase.  I'm talking about ordinary applications which do stupid things 
> like edit documents and calculate payroll runs.
> 
> The main points I've taken away from this discussion is that a 
> non-trivial proportion of ISP operational personnel have no idea what 
> life is like within the enterprise organizations which are their 
> customers; that they have a grossly exaggerated view of the skillsets, 
> levels of engagement, and degrees of empowerment amongst run-of-the-mill 
> software developers; and that they are either incapable of or are 
> unwilling to step down from the rarified atmospheres of the technical 
> heights they inhabit relative to the hoi polloi and even attempt to 
> understand the constraints under which they operate.
> 
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> Roland Dobbins <rdobb...@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
> 
>         Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
> 
>                      -- John Milton
> 
> 

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