Ugly would usually be considered pejorative. Owen
On Sep 29, 2012, at 20:59 , Keith Medcalf <kmedc...@dessus.com> wrote: > > Ugly bags of mostly water? > > > --- > () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Otis L. Surratt, Jr. [mailto:o...@ocosa.com] >> Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 05:33 >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: RE: guys != gender neutral >> >> Maybe the OP for "really nasty attacks" in hindsight wishes "NANOGers" was >> used instead to address the list. :) >> >> Having "all walks of life" essentially all around, it really makes one >> careful to truly think before speaking. Sometimes we miss this with >> everything we have going on, but no one is perfect. >> >> The bottomline is, no one can really sastifisfy any indivdual and their >> preference of how they would liked to be addressed. If one is to be offended >> or looks for offense they will capitalize on it period. I try much as >> possible to avoid those situations. >> >> When we refer to our clients in a mass communication we either utilize our >> tools to auto fix their name to the letter or we address them as "OCOSA >> Family" or "All" or "Clients". We are a very family-oriented business and >> are "down to Earth." We'd like to believe our clients are apart of our family >> and some may take offense but you might or never would know unless an >> opportunity presented itself. >> >> Personally, I practice using the person's name, I am in communication >> with...not "buddy", "bud", "pal", "man", "guys", "gal" "y'all" and etc. When >> addressing mixed gender groups, I simply speak or address as "all". Thus, no >> mistakes. >> >> When addressing both genders you have to be extremely careful. Ultimately, It >> depends on the audience and treating all with respect seems to work for me. >> >> For example: You could address a group a men and call them "boys". Well, that >> might offend some, especially if they are older than you. >> For example: You could address a group of young adults and call them "kids". >> Well, that might offend some. >> >> As Owen mentioned saying "human" seems okay and true but then again, because >> it's not the norm it raises some question. (Internal thinking process, "Oh >> I'm a HUMAN!!!!, well I that is true" then your temperature gets back to >> normal) :) >> >> In general, this is life and I simply have fun and enjoy it because it's too >> short. >> >> >> Otis > > > >
