I work for an MPLS provider, so I guess I tend to trust them ;) Bill
-----Original Message----- From: Lee [mailto:ler...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:28 AM To: Ingrum, Bill Cc: wtrib...@sterneagee.com; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Redundant Routes, BGP with MPLS provider On 8/31/12, bill.ing...@t-systems.com <bill.ing...@t-systems.com> wrote: > I think having a GRE tunnel for the internal routing protocol is > unnecessary. It might be, but we have a requirement for multicast over the wan so the GRE tunnels had to be there. > Can you explain the reasoning behind this? I understand the > technical issue whereby GRE will allow multicast for EIGRP, OSPF, etc, > but why not just redistribute into BGP? I see no reason to trust the provider that much. > I work on a lot of MPLS CE routers, and in general you can accomplish > anything you need by redistributing your internal routing protocol > into BGP, and adjusting LP, MED and AS Prepend as needed. Sure.. but how do you *know* you're not getting anything added/removed by the provider? Lee > > Thanks, > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee [mailto:ler...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:15 AM > To: Tribble, Wesley > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Redundant Routes, BGP with MPLS provider > > On 8/30/12, Tribble, Wesley <wtrib...@sterneagee.com> wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I am an Network Operator working in an Enterprise environment with >> offices all over the country(mostly connected via MPLS). We are >> currently working towards building a Disaster Recovery Site that will >> host some of our vendor routers and provide the capability to access >> these vendors from both our primary and backup data center locations. > >> The routes(as advertised by the vendor's routers) will be the same at >> both locations. I would like to advertise the routes from multiple >> locations at the same time, rather than suppress the routes and > advertise conditionally. > > At work, we have our internal routing protocol running on GRE over > IPSec tunnels & keep the BGP sessions with the MPLS provider limited > to just the MPLS network. And have an ACL on the MPLS network > interface that allows only what's expected in... some providers are > better than others at not having anything hit the 'deny any any log' > line > > Regards, > Lee > > >> >> What is the best method to Instruct the provider's network to prefer >> the Primary Data Center routes over the DR site? Keep in mind that I >> am only peering with the provider over BGP and I have no visibility >> to > >> the underlying MPLS architecture or configuration. Although if you >> have specific questions about their architecture, I can work to get > answers. >> >> Discussing in house, we have gone over a few different options: >> >> -Advertise specific routes from primary site and summary routes from >> the DR site. Most specific will always be chosen. >> -Prepend the routes from the DR site so that they will have a longer >> AS-path than the Primary location -Use Community Strings to influence >> local preference.(Still working to find out if Provider will pass our >> community strings) >> >> Just looking for some ideas and best practices. Any thoughts or >> insight would be much welcomed and appreciated. This is my first >> message on NANOG, so please be gentle. I apologize in advance if I >> have done something incorrectly. >> >> >> Wes >> >> >> ________________________________ >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> **************************** Sterne Agee Group, Inc. and its >> subsidiaries request that you do not transmit orders and instructions >> regarding your Sterne Agee account by e-mail. Transactional details >> do > >> not supersede normal trade confirmations or statements. The >> information contained in this transmission is privileged and >> confidential. It is intended for the use of the individual or entity >> named above. The information contained herein is based on sources we >> believe reliable but is not considered all-inclusive. Opinions are >> our > >> current opinions only and are subject to change without notice. >> Offerings are subject to prior sale and/or change in price. Prices, >> quotes, rates and yields are subject to change without notice. Sterne >> Agee & Leach, Inc. member FINRA and SIPC, is a registered >> broker-dealer subsidiary of Sterne Agee Group, Inc. Generally, >> investments are NOT FDIC INSURED, NOT BANK GUARANTEED, and MAY LOSE >> VALUE. Please contact your Financial Advisor with information >> regarding specific investments. >> Sterne Agee >> reserves the right to monitor all electronic correspondence. >> > ********************************************************************** > ** > ************************** >> > >