On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:42, Jon Lewis wrote:

> Routers are sometimes used on networks that don't have internet connectivity 
> [by design].  This seems amazingly short-sighted for a company that's been 
> around selling routing gear as long as cisco.

Not to defend Cisco's idiotic decision, but in this case the devices in 
question are extremely unlikely to be used in such a situation as they are 
consumer/SOHO products.  The vast, overwhelming majority of these will be 
installed as the primary and/or only piece of network hardware other than the 
modem.  I'd imagine that anyone who knows enough to care about a non-connected 
situation was never considering these devices in the first place.

Frankly for the Joe Sixpack market I can't argue against the autoupdate idea 
itself, as outdated consumer routers probably account for a large percentage of 
the exploitable Linux systems out there, but the "cloud" tie in and privacy 
issues are clearly not well thought out.

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