> The fact that it is symmetric leads to the problem. > > Even if the attacker had fully compromised the server end they get > nothing. There's no reply attack. No shared secret they can use to log > into another web site. Zero value.
with per-site passphrases there is no cross-site threat. there is replay, as you point out. would be interested to hear smb on this. > Yep. Don't get me wrong, there's an RFC or two here, a few pages of > code in web servers and browsers. I am not asserting this is a trival > change that could be made by one guy in a few minutes. However, I am > suggesting this is an easy change that could be implemented in weeks > not months. did you say RFC in the same sentence as weeks? but i definitely agree that we should be able to do better than we are now. randy