On May 29, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
>> Likely transfers made in this way may not be recordable with the applicable 
>> RIRs and may violate the RIR policies.
>> 
>> If you care about your addresses being properly registered in whois to avoid 
>> unnecessary hassles around being able to route them, I highly recommend 
>> making sure that you are working either directly with a registered resource 
>> holder and/or through a reputable facilitator. In my experience, the RIR 
>> staff are readily available and very helpful in answering questions about 
>> transfer policies and helping you to work within the system to avoid 
>> difficulties later.
>> 
>> The RIRs that serves North America are ARIN (US, Canada, much of the 
>> Caribbean) http://www.arin.net
>> and LACNIC (Mexico, the rest of the Caribbean) http://www.lacnic.net.
>> 
>> Others are APNIC (Asia/Australia) http://www.apnic.net, RIPE NCC (Europe) 
>> http://www.ripe.net, and AfriNIC (Africa) http://www.afrinic.net
>> 
> 
> 
> Owen,
> 
> If i were you, i would strongly consider deploying IPv6 instead of
> dealing with this IPv4 mess.  :)
> 
Cameron,

As you know, I've dual-stacked all my stuff and I'm now in the business of 
helping others get there.

> In all seriousness folks, it is going to get scary out there ...
> meaning, you are going to have to work with spammers over TOR to get
> addresses for your legitimate business reasons.
> 

How legitimate can they be if you're doing that?

> In related news, Facebook jumped on the gun on world IPv6 launch
> 

This is a good thing!

> http://www.akamai.com/ipv6
> 
> Come on in, the water is fine  (can't say the same about IPv4 and
> their shady resell markets).

True that!

Owen

> 
> CB
>> 
>> On May 29, 2012, at 5:43 PM, The SpaceMarket wrote:
>> 
>>> IPv4 is not going away as quickly as many would like.  Most realistic
>>> observations show IPv4 will still be the numbering scheme most widely
>>> deployed and utilized for the next decade.  This due mainly to peers
>>> and providers whom have not deployed IPv6 and ISP end-users, which
>>> continue to use, antiquated operating systems.
>>> 
>>> SpaceMarket provides a platform for entities to acquire additional
>>> resources that find themselves deficient, and a platform for those with
>>> excess/unused resources to monetize their valuable resources.
>>> 
>>> Our platform is safe, secure and confidential.
>>> 
>>> Buyers and sellers can rest assured that their trades will be executed
>>> without a hitch (no hijacked network ranges or scammers) as each
>>> network allocation available has been thoroughly investigated and
>>> tested (we’re either announcing or have announced the networks
>>> available for an extended period of time), and upon request by either
>>> the buyer or seller, SpaceMarket will serve as an escrow agent for the
>>> transaction.
>>> 
>>> Currently (as of this writing), there we have just over
>>> 150,000 addresses available for immediate use. This may seem like a low
>>> number, but allocations are listed and acquired daily using our
>>> automated system—we don’t have to be involved in your transaction. In
>>> order to provide our services without hassle and confidentially, we
>>> provide access to our trading platform via Tor (as a Tor Hidden
>>> Service).  This allows our members to connect freely and without worry
>>> as to who may be monitoring your online activities or visitors to our
>>> site.  Additionally, access to the site is restricted to active members
>>> of our trading community.
>>> 
>>> For more information on our service, site URL or membership please
>>> e-mail us at spacemar...@tormail.org.  We look forward to assisting you
>>> with your IPv4 needs! Please use our public key (below) when
>>> corresponding via E-mail.  Don’t forget to send us yours!
>>> 
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