On 28 Apr 2012, at 14:57, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:34:52PM +0200, > Alex Band <al...@ripe.net> wrote > a message of 41 lines which said: > >> In reality, since the RIRs launched an RPKI production service on 1 >> Jan 2011, adoption has been incredibly good (for example compared to >> IPv6 and DNSSEC). More than 1500 ISPs and large organizations >> world-wide have opted-in to the system and requested a resource >> certificate using the hosted service, or running an open source >> package with their own CA. > > I have an experience with the deployment of DNSSEC and the problem > with DNSSEC was not to have signed zones (many are, now) but to have > people *using* these signatures to check the data (i.e. validating in > a resolver). > > RPKI has many ROA (signed objects) but how many operators validate > routes on their production routers? Zero?
First you need a robust system and reliable data. Native router support is
coming along. We could be getting to a stage where people will use the data in
production. Time will tell...
>> But it's not just that, these ISPs didn't just blindly get
>> certificate and walk away.
>
> Most of the ROAs are very recent. Again, the experience with DNSSEC
> shows that starting is easy ("DNSSEC in siw minutes"). It's long term
> management which is *the* problem. Wait until people start to change
> the routing data and watch the ROAs becoming less and less correct...
>
>> Data quality is really good.
>
> It's not what you said:
>
> "It is safe to say that overall data quality is pretty bad"
> <https://labs.ripe.net/Members/AlexBand/resource-certification-rpki-in-the-real-world>
>
> (good paper, by the way, thanks)
A lot has changed since I wrote that. :)
-Alex
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