Leo,

On Mar 28, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>> #1) Money.
>> #2) Laziness.

> While Patrick is spot on, there is a third issue which is related
> to money and laziness, but also has some unique aspects.
> 
> BCP38 makes the assumption that the ISP does some "configuration"
> to insure only properly sourced packets enter the network.  That
> may have been true when BCP38 was written, but no longer accurately
> reflects how networks are built and operated.

An interesting assertion.  I haven't looked at how end-user networks are built 
recently.  I had assumed there continue to be customer aggregation points 
within ISP infrastructure in which BCP38-type filtering could occur.  You're 
saying this is no longer the case?  What has replaced it?

> BCP38 needs

> to be applied at the OEM level in equipment maufacturing, not at
> the operational level with ISP's.

I don't believe this is either/or.  I agree that BCP38 features should be 
turned on by default in CPE, however I believe it really needs to be enforced 
at the ISP level.

> As long as folks keep beating on (consumer) ISPs to implement BCP38, nothing 
> will happen.


Optimist.

Actually, given the uptick in spoofing-based DoS attacks, the ease in which 
such attacks can be generated, recent high profile targets of said attacks, and 
the full-on money pumping freakout about anything with "cyber-" tacked on the 
front, I suspect a likely outcome will be proposals for legislation forcing 
ISPs to do something like BCP38. 

Regards,
-drc


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