My understanding was that fiber loops were originally included in UNE products available to clecs but several years ago the FCC modified the regulations to remove them.
So, if a service can be provisioned over a copper loop, a clec can offer it, but the ilec doesn't have to share fiber loops or services provisioned over fiber loops. I guess that explains the frenzy of fiber-to-the-curb buildout we saw with Pac Bell in the early 2000's. I don't think ATT/PacBell has been ripping out copper, but much of it in the SF Bay area is a rotting mess and ATT hasn't been spending much money to maintain it. Now that the DSL clecs are all but extinct, the pace of fiber buildout to the end-user has slowed down considerably. Joe McGuckin ViaNet Communications j...@via.net 650-207-0372 cell 650-213-1302 office 650-969-2124 fax On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eric Wieling" <ewiel...@nyigc.com> > >> Verizon, the copper wireline company, is removing service from >> locations EVERY TIME VZ fiber is installed in a building. This >> prevents other companies from providing service by leasing Verizon's >> copper infrastructure. If there was copper at a location then VZ would >> be required to resell it and nobody would be locked out. > > TTBOMK, whether Verizon has copper to a building has *no bearing at all* > on whether a CLEC can place an order for wholesale service to that location; > VZN is *required* to provide that wholesale service, at the regulated NRC > and MRC rates, whether they currently happen to have the physical facilities > in place or not -- are you alleging either that I've misunderstood that, > or that VZN is refusing such orders *simply* because they've removed > facilities to an address where FiOS has done an install? > > Cause either of those ought to violate the rules. > >> We often get customers in buildings lit by Verizon fiber service who >> want to change carriers. Too bad they can't anymore. Technically they >> can switch providers. Verizon will remove the fiber, re-install >> copper, and have the customer down for a week or so. > > See above. > > Cheers, > -- jra > -- > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > j...@baylink.com > Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 > Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII > St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
