> Yes, don't buy the cheap stuff :) Until we do, the other stuff remains expensive.
mike On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Phil Regnauld <regna...@nsrc.org> wrote: > Jonathon Exley (Jonathon.Exley) writes: >> However vendors of low cost routers/switches/muxes > > Hi Jonathon, have you ever tried to work with a Catalyst Express 500 ? > A good example of a fully functional IOS device, where the vendor went > out of their way to disable Telnet/SSH, and force one to run CLI > commands via the a Web UI. You can do everything, but even "vty 0 x" > and "transport input telnet" won't give access. > >> seem to take a stab in the dark and produce some really nasty stuff. > > Cisco isn't exactly low cost, but the point here is exactly that: > take away CLI and tools that make automation easier, so that customers > will feel compelled to buy the more expensive stuff if they want > the fancy stuff (which, in this case, is actually LESS fancy). > > It's not incompetence, it's called crippleware, and it's a business > model :) > >> Maybe the vendors need some sort >> of best practices guide for what manageability features their kit >> needs to support to make them acceptable to the market. Does anyone >> know if there is anything along these lines? > > Yes, don't buy the cheap stuff :) > > Phil > >