On Sep 5, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:

> The idea of origin validation is a simple one.  The idea of path validation 
> isn't to determine the 'correctness' or 'desirability' of a
> particular AS-path, but rather to determine the *validity* (or at least the 
> *feasability*) of a given AS-path.


Sorry, I was misunderstood. To clarify, I was referring only to our work 
(http://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~phillipa/sbgpTrans.html), where security does play 
a small role in the route selection process (after LocalPref and AS-PATH 
length), and not to the BGPsec spec. The reason why we assume that security 
affects the route selection process is because otherwise, even an AS that 
deploys S*BGP, remains vulnerable to attacks. To see why, take a look at slides 
10-13 of our NANOG presentation 
(http://www.cs.bu.edu/~goldbe/papers/Goldberg-TransitionToSBGP-NANOG.pdf, video 
available at http://www.cs.utoronto.ca/~phillipa/sbgpTrans.html). The basic 
idea is: if an AS prefers short paths over secure paths they'll be just as 
vulnerable to path-shortening attacks with and without S*BGP.

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