On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, David Conrad wrote:

> On Jun 17, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I really don't think that namespace issues are part of the role for the ASO 
>> AC.
> 
> Why do you think there is an ASO?
> 

To coordinate numberspace issues between the IANA and the RIRs.

>> This is clearly a problem for ICANN's disaster-ridden domain-name side, and 
>> not
>> for the ASO/NRO side of things.
> 
> Because there is clearly no inter-relation between domains and address and the
> operation of the Internet.
> 

Oh, there is tremendous inter-relation. However, making a mess and then punting 
it
to the ASO is an entirely different matter.

>> Operationally, it's a horrible idea, but,
>> most of us in layers 1-4 stopped paying much attention to the disasters 
>> happening
>> at ICANN for DNS along time ago as we sort of came to believe that we didn't 
>> have
>> enough money to bribe^h^h^h^h^hinfluence the right people in a sufficiently
>> meaningful way to make our voices heard.
> 
> Aren't you one of the folks who state that if you don't participate in PPML 
> then
> you have no reason to criticize ARIN policies?
> 

It doesn't cost anything to participate in PPML.

Owen


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