On 3/14/2011 12:11 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 3/13/11 9:35 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote:
the real cesspool is POC registries. i wish arin would start revoking
allocations for entities with invalid POCs.
Hear, hear!
Leo's remembering the old days (80s - early '90s), when we checked
whois and
called each others' NOCs directly. That stopped working, and we
started getting
front line support, who's whole purpose was to filter. Nowadays, I've
often
been stuck in voice prompt or voice mail hell, unable to get anybody
on the
phone, and cannot get any response from email, either. Ever. The big
ILECs
are the worst.
What we need is an "abuse" for ARIN, telling them the contacts don't work
properly, which ARIN could verify, revoke the allocation, and send
notice to
the upstream telling them to withdraw the route immediately.
Define "contacts don't work properly".
- Email / phone number does not exist?
- Email / phone was answered by unhelpful person?
- Your particular issue provided in email / phone call was not addressed
immediately (or within a timeframe that *you* see as appropriate)?
The first can be verified objectively. The others are subjective and
impossible to verify.
Force them to go through the entire allocation process from the
beginning,
and always assign a new block. That might make them take notice.... And
shrink the routing table! Win, win!
Since we'd only send notification to ARIN about an actual problem, we'd
only drop the real troublemakers. To help enforce that, ARIN would also
verify the reporter's contacts. :-)
