On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Sam Stickland wrote:

> 
> 
> On 9 Feb 2011, at 02:43, "R. Benjamin Kessler" <ben.kess...@zenetra.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>>> From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] 
>> 
>>>> "Let's just grab 2/8, it's not routed on the Internet..."
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> I was consulting for a financial services firm in the late '90s that was 
>> acquired by a large east-coast bank; the bank's brilliant scheme was to 
>> renumber all new acquisitions *out* of RFC1918 space and into (at the time) 
>> bogon space.  
>> 
>> If I recall, some of the arguments were "they were too big to fit into 
>> RFC1918 space" and by having all of their divisions in non-RFC1918 space it 
>> would make it easier for them to acquire new companies who used RFC1918 
>> space internally.
>> 
> 
> You don't have to trawl back to the late 90's to find this, I know of at 
> least 3 or 4 large enterprises using large chunks of public address (multiple 
> /8's) that aren't their's /today/.
> 
> This "works" because 1) the Internet is only accessed through proxies, 2) 
> devices that require direct Internet access are addressed out of registered 
> address space (or NATed to registered address space), and 3) third party 
> connections to others enterprises are usually src/dst NATTed to the 
> enterprise's own ranges (with the added benefit that this NAT at 3rd party 
> boundaries helps ensure symmetric traffic flow through firewalls). 
> 
> And I've only worked at 3 or 4 large enterprises so it's probably safe to 
> assume there's more! With my SP background I was shocked and I'm not trying 
> to defend this practice, but in the enterprise land it seems accepted. 
> 
> Sam

On the freeways in the US, it's quite common for people to be doing 5-15 MPH 
over the
speed limit. This practice seems accepted.

I don't think there's a whole lot of sympathy, however, when someone receives a 
ticket for it.

Owen


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