On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 21:40:30 -0400 Marshall Eubanks <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Mark Smith wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 15:32:30 -0700 > > "Scott Weeks" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> It's really quiet in here. So, for some Friday fun let me whap at the > >> hornets nest and see what happens... >;-) > >> > >> > >> http://www.ionary.com/PSOC-MovingBeyondTCP.pdf > >> > > > > Who ever wrote that doesn't know what they're talking about. LISP is > > not the IETF's proposed solution (the IETF don't have one, the IRTF do), > > Um, I would not agree. The IRTF RRG considered and is documenting a lot of > things, but did not > come to any consensus as to which one should be a "proposed solution." > I probably got a bit keen, I've been reading through the IRTF RRG "Recommendation for a Routing Architecture" draft which, IIRC, makes a recommendation to pursue Identifier/Locator Network Protocol rather than LISP. Regards, Mark. > Regards > Marshall > > > > and streaming media was seen to be one of the early applications of the > > Internet - these types of applications is why TCP was split out of > > IP, why UDP was invented, and why UDP has has a significantly > > different protocol number to TCP. > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> "NAT is your friend" > >> > >> "IP doesn’t handle addressing or multi-homing well at all" > >> > >> "The IETF’s proposed solution to the multihoming problem is > >> called LISP, for Locator/Identifier Separation Protocol. This > >> is already running into scaling problems, and even when it works, > >> it has a failover time on the order of thirty seconds." > >> > >> "TCP and IP were split the wrong way" > >> > >> "IP lacks an addressing architecture" > >> > >> "Packet switching was designed to complement, not replace, the telephone > >> network. IP was not optimized to support streaming media, such as voice, > >> audio broadcasting, and video; it was designed to not be the telephone > >> network." > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> And so, "...the first principle of our proposed new network architecture: > >> Layers are recursive." > >> > >> I can hear the angry hornets buzzing already. :-) > >> > >> scott > > > > >

