On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Graham Beneke wrote:

> On 21/10/2010 02:41, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>>> Someone advised me to use GUA instead of ULA. But since for my purposes 
>>> this is used for an IPv6 LAN would ULA not be the better choice?
>>> 
>> IMHO, no. There's no disadvantage to using GUA and I personally don't think 
>> ULA really serves a purpose. If you want to later connect this
>> LAN to the internet or something that connects to something that connects to 
>> something that connects to the internet or whatever, GUA provides
>> the following advantages:
>>      +       Guaranteed uniqueness (not just statistically probable 
>> uniqueness)
>>      +       You can route it if you later desire to
>> 
>> Since ULA offers no real advantages, I don't really see the point.
> 
> Someone insisted to me yesterday the RFC1918-like address space was the only 
> way to provide a 'friendly' place for people to start their journey in 
> playing with IPv6. I think that the idea of real routable IPs on a lab 
> network daunts many people.
> 
They should get less daunted. You can always put a firewall with a deny all 
policy or an air-gap in front of it if you don't want to talk to the internet.

> I've been down the road with ULA a few years back and I have to agree with 
> Owen - rather just do it on GUA.
> 
Thanks.

> I was adding IPv6 to a fairly large experimental network and started using 
> ULA. The local NREN then invited me to peer with them but I couldn't announce 
> my ULA to them. They are running a 'public Internet' network and have a 
> backbone that will just filter them.
> 
Uh huh. Now, imagine if, instead of a small experimental deployment, you had a 
fortune 500 enterprise and instead of an NREN it was an ISP for whom you were a 
major customer... Any bets on which side of that equation gets the policy 
change?

> I think that the biggest thing that trips people up is that they think that 
> they'll just fix-it-with-NAT to get onto the GUA Internet. Getting your own 
> GUA from an RIR isn't tough - rather just do it.
> 
I completely agree.

Owen

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