I believe that the vast majority of the legacy space is in fact in the US. RD
> Not to stir an already boiling over pot and all, but is there any kind > of report or documentation on releasing of space from countries other > then the North American region? > > I'd hate to think that the rest of the world thinks that the US should > be the one to give up all their space so that they can continue to hand > out space like candy... > > -- > Brielle Bruns > The Summit Open Source Development Group > http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:52:00 +0100 > From: "Stephen D. Strowes" <s...@dcs.gla.ac.uk> > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > 45/8 address block > To: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: <1287593520.11548.15.ca...@carney> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:40 +0100, John Curran wrote: > > > Also makes me wonder if there are historical versions of this registry > > > available. If reclamation of large blocks such as this becomes > > > commonplace, will many of the legacy allocations simply become > > > footnotes? (In the registry document, as well as in history?) > > > > This has already happened in many cases; address blocks previously > > held by US DoD, BBN, Stanford were returned, held for a period, > > and then reissued. > > Indeed yes. And these returned blocks aren't noted in the IANA registry > (for good reason I guess; the registry is meant to be current.) Is this > historical information noted anywhere? > > > -S. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:06:33 -0700 > From: Doug Barton <do...@dougbarton.us> > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > 45/8 address block > To: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <4cbf2199.4010...@dougbarton.us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 10/20/2010 7:13 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > i think this is cool, but ... > > > >> ARIN will follow global policy at that time and return it to the > >> global free pool or distribute the space to those organizations in the > >> ARIN region with documented need, as appropriate. > > > > i know the us has the world series, but global> arin region > > I would like to join the chorus of applause for Interop's generosity. I > agree with those who've said that this only buys us a little more time, > but they did the right thing, and we should applaud them for that; along > with the DOD and others who have returned their unneeded space. > > As for the fact that the block was released to ARIN as opposed to going > back in the free pool, the effect may ultimately be the same. > Allocations from IANA to the RIRs happen under the policy posted at > http://www.icann.org/en/general/allocation-IPv4-rirs.html. The > determination of when to allocate a new /8 is based on the amount of > free space that the RIR has on hand at the time of the request. There > are 12 /8s remaining atm, and 5 of those will automatically be allocated > 1 per RIR when the other 7 have been allocated under the normal policy. > I am confident that ARIN will also do the right thing here and include > the /8 from Interop in their free space calculation before requesting an > allocation of one of the 7 /8s in the free pool. > > > hth, > > Doug > > -- > > Breadth of IT experience, and | Nothin' ever doesn't change, > depth of knowledge in the DNS. | but nothin' changes much. > Yours for the right price. :) | -- OK Go > http://SupersetSolutions.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:34:22 -0400 > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > 45/8 address block > To: Brielle Bruns <br...@2mbit.com> > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: <62eadae5-5d10-4749-ad1f-9343a457f...@arin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > > > > Not to stir an already boiling over pot and all, but is there any kind of > report or documentation on releasing of space from countries other then the > North American region? > > You're not going to find a lot of large allocations which are unused in > other regions, predominantly because these allocations where made at the > earliest time of the Internet to organizations that were mostly in the > ARIN region. > > > I'd hate to think that the rest of the world thinks that the US should be > the one to give up all their space so that they can continue to hand out > space like candy... > > While it is true that some regions seem to be experiencing a real surge > in IPv4 demand recently, it's also important to remember that *all* of the > address space is for the Internet community at large, based on documented > need, on a first-come, first-serve basis. It's actually "global Internet > address space"; this is a fundamental principle of the Internet Registry > system as noted in RFC 2050. > > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > ARIN > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:41:19 -0400 > From: Rudolph Daniel <rudi.dan...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 33, Issue 91 > To: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: > > <aanlktinucq+1x8xo-adctu_gbpfft6_zfegzb7g4p...@mail.gmail.com<aanlktinucq%2b1x8xo-adctu_gbpfft6_zfegzb7g4p...@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > We all are waiving flags about the return of one solitary /8 to ARIN, > (which > is a good thing) but should we not waive flags about new v6 networks too? > > Let us waive the flags also for the v6 adopters...I think we need to > evangelize v6 even more than we are already doing. > > RD > > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:27:41 -0400 > > From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Joel Esler <joel.es...@me.com> > > Cc: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" > > <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: > > <aanlktin4p826pomny_rnzvszowknih7zn1lmifhay...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Joel Esler <joel.es...@me.com> wrote: > > > Now, if we could get everyone that has these gigantic /8's (or multiple > > of them) that aren't using them to give some back, that'd be great. > > > > it's nice that interop did a nice thing here, but seriously, this is > > ~3 months of usage... there is no saving the move to v6, the bottom's > > going to fall out on or about june 2011 it seems. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:28:44 -0400 > > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <ebf47e07-edc2-47f7-89ee-5d2165a74...@arin.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> > wrote: > > >> Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. > > >> > > >> John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address > > space > > >> was returned to ARIN? > > > > > > less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate. > > > > Not to be depressing, but a /8 (or 99% of one :-) is potentially less > > than one month's drain on the global IPv4 free pool, if one considers > > the allocations over the last 12 months to be predictive. > > > > /John > > > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > ARIN > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:29:58 -0400 > > From: Curtis Maurand <cmaur...@xyonet.com> > > Subject: Re: Recommendations for Metro-Ethernet Equipment > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Message-ID: <4cbf0af6.9030...@xyonet.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > I'd add Alcatel to that list. > > > > On 10/20/2010 11:24 AM, Eric Merkel wrote: > > > I've been tasked with making a recommendation for the core and access > > > equipment for a small metro-ethernet network. We're probably talking at > > max > > > 200-300 subs split between two termination points. Most customers will > > > probably be at speeds of 100M or less. We'd like the backbone to be 10G > > and > > > be MPLS capable. That being said some of the companies we've been > looking > > at > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > Cisco > > > > > > Extreme > > > > > > Brocade > > > > > > Adtran > > > > > > Occam > > > > > > Zhone > > > > > > > > > > > > We're looking to build the network in a cost effective manner so we're > > not > > > opposed to doing using aftermarket or refurbished equipment but we > don't > > > want to start off with equipment that has no future of expanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions, success or horror stories are appreciated. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > Eric Merkel > > > > > > MetaLINK Technologies, Inc. > > > > > > Email: merkel at metalink.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:33:01 -0400 > > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <bb969af1-e6dc-4e71-b3d7-a56dabdeb...@arin.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > > > > it's nice that interop did a nice thing here, but seriously, this is > > > ~3 months of usage... there is no saving the move to v6, the bottom's > > > going to fall out on or about june 2011 it seems. > > > > I agree with Chris; this (and any other returns) won't change the IPv4 > > depletion/IPv6 deployment timeline substantially, but it's also true > > we have folks who are just now realizing IPv4 depletion is happening > > and returned address space may make the difference for those who need > > just a bit more time... > > > > /John > > > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > ARIN > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:35:19 -0400 > > From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: > > > > <aanlktimgwas1vk+wvexdekl8srcbe6wxeploav8ez...@mail.gmail.com<aanlktimgwas1vk%2bwvexdekl8srcbe6wxeploav8ez...@mail.gmail.com> > <aanlktimgwas1vk%2bwvexdekl8srcbe6wxeploav8ez...@mail.gmail.com<aanlktimgwas1vk%252bwvexdekl8srcbe6wxeploav8ez...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> wrote: > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > > >> less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate. > > > > > > Not to be depressing, but a /8 (or 99% of one :-) is potentially less > > > than one month's drain on the global IPv4 free pool, if one considers > > > the allocations over the last 12 months to be predictive. > > > > yes, sorry.. since this was returned to ARIN, I assumed the ARIN > > region drain rate. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:37:55 -0400 > > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Jeroen Massar <jer...@unfix.org> > > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <cc71d159-c46e-49c7-9a8b-6a99508cc...@arin.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:24 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > > > > > The problem with that is indeed in that little part about "aren't using > > > them", if even only 50% is in use because one allocated it quite > > > sparsely you won't be able to quickly clean it up and return it. > > > > Correct. It might make sense to do so, if you could recover the costs of > > the work involved. This is the reasoning behind the Specified Transfer > > policy that was recently adopted; it allows (once we're at depletion) for > > parties to free up address space and get compensated. It's goal is not > to > > provide a windfall for those holding unused space; in theory, those with > > unused address space should be returning it already if they can easily do > > so. > > > > > One can of course wonder if they are supposed to use that or not. > > > The fact that they do not have reverse DNS delegation for it says quite > > > a bit already of course. > > > > One of the other benefits of improved utilization for returned space > > is less space which is "sitting idle" and available to be hijacked. > > > > /John > > > > John Curran > > President and CEO > > ARIN > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:40:57 -0400 > > From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <dbbfdc71-10d2-45ce-86c5-08496337c...@arin.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > > > yes, sorry.. since this was returned to ARIN, I assumed the ARIN > > > region drain rate. > > > > Ah, good point. It may end up in the global pool, so comparison to > > either drain rate is quite reasonable. > > > > /John > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:45:20 -0400 > > From: Joe Maimon <jmai...@ttec.com> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > > Cc: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" > > <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <4cbf0e90.6070...@ttec.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > > > > > Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard<n...@foobar.org> > wrote: > > >> Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. > > >> > > >> John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address > > space > > >> was returned to ARIN? > > > > > > less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate. > > > > > > > So would it be more logical for all those willing to return do so only > > after depletion when the impact and resulting appreciation is likely to > > be greater? > > > > Plus, those less altruistic could weigh the options better after real > > value is associated with the scarce resource. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:02:16 -0400 > > From: Francois Menard <franc...@menards.ca> > > Subject: Re: Recommendations for Metro-Ethernet Equipment > > To: Curtis Maurand <cmaur...@xyonet.com> > > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > > Message-ID: <b861a05d-db46-4e45-8818-a6c0c6356...@menards.ca> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > We just bought a fair amount of MRV Optiswitches for that same purpose. > > > > F. > > > > On 2010-10-20, at 11:29 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: > > > > > I'd add Alcatel to that list. > > > > > > On 10/20/2010 11:24 AM, Eric Merkel wrote: > > >> I've been tasked with making a recommendation for the core and access > > >> equipment for a small metro-ethernet network. We're probably talking > at > > max > > >> 200-300 subs split between two termination points. Most customers will > > >> probably be at speeds of 100M or less. We'd like the backbone to be > 10G > > and > > >> be MPLS capable. That being said some of the companies we've been > > looking at > > >> are > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Cisco > > >> > > >> Extreme > > >> > > >> Brocade > > >> > > >> Adtran > > >> > > >> Occam > > >> > > >> Zhone > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> We're looking to build the network in a cost effective manner so we're > > not > > >> opposed to doing using aftermarket or refurbished equipment but we > don't > > >> want to start off with equipment that has no future of expanding. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Any suggestions, success or horror stories are appreciated. ;) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Eric > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ===== > > >> > > >> Eric Merkel > > >> > > >> MetaLINK Technologies, Inc. > > >> > > >> Email: merkel at metalink.net > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 10 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:03:46 -0400 (EDT) > > From: "Justin M. Streiner" <strei...@cluebyfour.org> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <pine.lnx.4.64.1010201154270.17...@whammy.cluebyfour.org> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Joel Esler wrote: > > > > > Now, if we could get everyone that has these gigantic /8's (or multiple > > > of them) that aren't using them to give some back, that'd be great. > > > > > > Thank you interop for setting the example. > > > > Sure, it would be a nice gesture if MIT/HP/Ford/Xerox/Halliburton/etc > gave > > back the chunks of the /8s they weren't using, but it wouldn't > > significantly affect when the IPv4 well runs dry. Also, without knowing > > how those organizations have used the space internally, such an > > altruistic gesture could also come at the cost of having to de-aggregate > > a bunch of advertisements in BGP. > > > > The law of diminishing returns comes into play. > > jms > > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > > > > >> Thank you Interop - for performing an outstanding act of altruism. > > >> > > >> John, could you provide more details at this stage on how much address > > space was returned to ARIN? > > >> > > >> Nick > > >> > > >> On 20/10/2010 14:34, John Curran wrote: > > >>> FYI, > > >>> /John > > >>> > > >>> ---- > > >>> https://www.arin.net/announcements/2010/20101020.html > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Posted: Wednesday, 20 October 2010 > > >>> > > >>> ARIN today recognizes Interop, an organization with a long-standing > > presence in the Internet industry, for returning its unneeded Internet > > Protocol version 4 (IPv4) address space. > > >>> > > >>> Interop was originally allocated a /8 before ARIN's existence and the > > availability of smaller-sized address blocks. The organization recently > > realized it was only using a small portion of its address block and that > > returning the remainder to ARIN would be for the greater good of the > > Internet community. > > >>> > > >>> ARIN will accept the returned space and not reissue it for a short > > period, per existing operational procedure. After the hold period, ARIN > will > > follow global policy at that time and return it to the global free pool > or > > distribute the space to those organizations in the ARIN region with > > documented need, as appropriate. > > >>> > > >>> With less than 5% of the IPv4 address space left in the global free > > pool, ARIN warns that Interop's return will not significantly extend the > > life of IPv4. ARIN continues to emphasize the need for all Internet > > stakeholders to adopt the next generation of Internet Protocol, IPv6. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Communications and Member Services > > >>> American Registry for Internet Numbers > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Joel Esler > > > http://www.joelesler.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 11 > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:04:29 -0400 > > From: Ernie Rubi <erne...@cs.fiu.edu> > > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > > 45/8 address block > > To: Joe Maimon <jmai...@ttec.com> > > Cc: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" > > <nanog@nanog.org> > > Message-ID: <107a762e-d0a0-4cba-92d8-376fcd6e2...@cs.fiu.edu> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > I don't think ARIN (or any other RIR) wants people to think this way. > > > > Appreciation and value are words that most folks at ICANN don't want > > network engineers to associate with IP addresses. > > > > "The real value is in routing"; is the party line. > > > > STLS to me is kind of double speak, ARIN says: "this isn't a capital > > resource", but yet if you go through us and list your 'unused' blocks in > > this space, we don't care what financial transaction happens behind the > > scenes. > > > > Maybe John can shed more light on this. > > > > For some background, go over to the Internet-history mailing list, which > > included a very lively discussion of "ownership interest" in IP > addresses. > > > > Ernie > > > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > > > > > > So would it be more logical for all those willing to return do so only > > after depletion when the impact and resulting appreciation is likely to > be > > greater? > > > > > > Plus, those less altruistic could weigh the options better after real > > value is associated with the scarce resource. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NANOG mailing list > > NANOG@nanog.org > > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > > > > End of NANOG Digest, Vol 33, Issue 91 > > ************************************* > > > > > > -- > > Rudi Daniel > *danielcharles consulting< > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774 > > > **1-784 498 8277< > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774 > > > * > * > * > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:53:12 -0600 > From: Brielle Bruns <br...@2mbit.com> > Subject: Re: ARIN recognizes Interop for return of more than 99% of > 45/8 address block > To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: <4cbf2c88.1070...@2mbit.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 10/20/10 11:34 AM, John Curran wrote: > > On Oct 20, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: > >>> > >>> Not to stir an already boiling over pot and all, but is there any > >>> kind of report or documentation on releasing of space from > >>> countries other then the North American region? > > You're not going to find a lot of large allocations which are unused > > in other regions, predominantly because these allocations where made > > at the earliest time of the Internet to organizations that were > > mostly in the ARIN region. > > > True, I didn't take that into account. :) > > > > >>> I'd hate to think that the rest of the world thinks that the US > >>> should be the one to give up all their space so that they can > >>> continue to hand out space like candy... > > While it is true that some regions seem to be experiencing a real > > surge in IPv4 demand recently, it's also important to remember > > that*all* of the address space is for the Internet community at > > large, based on documented need, on a first-come, first-serve basis. > > It's actually "global Internet address space"; this is a fundamental > > principle of the Internet Registry system as noted in RFC 2050. > > Understood, I'm just expressing concern over the current situation of > IPv4 exhaustion. As a spam fighter, I tend to see bursts of spam from > newly allocated space in various regions which leaves me scratching my > head as to why some places keep asking for more space and getting it so > easily. > > > -- > Brielle Bruns > The Summit Open Source Development Group > http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > NANOG@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > > End of NANOG Digest, Vol 33, Issue 93 > ************************************* > -- Rudi Daniel *danielcharles consulting<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774> **1-784 498 8277<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774> * * *
