On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howard wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM, iHate SORBS <ihateso...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing >> dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes. >> > > What sort of changes are you suggesting? Suggesting a block unless they > make undisclosed changes is simply asinine. > > I'm no fan of SORBS, but at the end of the day (ignoring the issues like > they had last week) they do what they say they do. > > The problem with SORBS is not SORBS itself, but the mail admins that are > stupid enough to use it - or at least stupid enough to use it as a straight > blacklist (as opposed to a scoring blacklist). Start up a campaign against > those if you like - perhaps an RBL of people who are using the SORBS RBL - > but asking people to stop "routing" a DNS domain just because you don't like > their clearly stated listing criteria simply isn't going to fly.
I kinda-sortta feel like many others who have posted here. This is a mail thing, not netops. Grow a pair and post under your own name. Is it even on-topic for NANOG? Etc. I even started typing a message to the effect of: "even though I don't like SORBS, they should be allowed to publish a list and let others do as they please". But then I realized, that is all this anonymous person is asking. Or at least it could be. If "iHate SORBS" wants to create a (another?) list of prefixes which should not be routed, and put SORBS on it, he (she?) should be allowed, just as SORBS should be allowed to have a list of mail servers SORBS doesn't like. Then each operator can decide whether to implement a block based on the list or not. Your network, your decision. Of course, I fully expect no one to implement the block. But that is no reason to deny the ability to create the list. Now, I feel like quoting Pastor Niemöller so we can end this thread. :) -- TTFN, patrick
