On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:40:28AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>
> > Funny!
> >
> > On one hand people talk about ARIN providing IP allocation at nearly zero
> > cost and on the other hand talking that ARIN goes after companies that use
> > their allocation for abuse (which has a non trivial cost and potential
> > expensive lawsuits)...
> >
> > Do you know what you want?
>
> Let's clarify the definition of abuse in this context. We are not talking
> about people who use their IPs to abuse the network. We are talking about
> resource recipients who use their allocations or assignments in contravention
> to the policies under which they received them (and thus contrary to the RSA
> which they signed when they received them).
>
> Owen
In the formal ARIN context, there is a distiction between abuse and
fraud.
abuse:: https://www.arin.net/abuse.html
fraud:: https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html
It would be helpful in clarifing the discussion if folks used the proper
terminology.
--bill