On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:40:28AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > > Funny! > > > > On one hand people talk about ARIN providing IP allocation at nearly zero > > cost and on the other hand talking that ARIN goes after companies that use > > their allocation for abuse (which has a non trivial cost and potential > > expensive lawsuits)... > > > > Do you know what you want? > > Let's clarify the definition of abuse in this context. We are not talking > about people who use their IPs to abuse the network. We are talking about > resource recipients who use their allocations or assignments in contravention > to the policies under which they received them (and thus contrary to the RSA > which they signed when they received them). > > Owen
In the formal ARIN context, there is a distiction between abuse and fraud. abuse:: https://www.arin.net/abuse.html fraud:: https://www.arin.net/resources/fraud/index.html It would be helpful in clarifing the discussion if folks used the proper terminology. --bill