On 2010.03.30 23:50, Anton Kapela wrote: > > On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: > >> "The title, Engineer, and its derivatives should be reserved for those >> individuals whose education and experience qualify them to practice in >> a manner that protects public safety. Strict use of the title serves > > ...fortunately for us (and CCIE's around the globe) running the Internet > doesn't involve much public trust. Does it? > > In a few states in the US, working for the same engineering firm for some > number of years (usually 6 or more) counts similarly as passing a > state-administered professional engineering exam. It would be with some > significant precedent, then, that a job or other professional experience does > indeed equate to state-sponsored public trust. > > So, back to Steve's first question: > >> How does the ops community feel about using this designation? > > > If you've been doing it for a while, and not been chased out, I would argue > there is ample precedent to support don'ing the title. I guess the > sticky-bits here include, potentially, a derth of colleges and graduate study > calling itself "network engineering." > > Failing that, perhaps nanog-l could take a vote: > > Does Steve deserve the title of Network Train Driver, list?
Not acceptable. I do not want this. I read and review messages and documents from people who have *much* more experience than I do every single day, and whom I respect to the n'th degree. This isn't a vote count. I am _not_ an engineer, and do not need or desire the title. Thanks anyway though ;) Steve
