Joe,

> The problem is that unless one is holding customer routes in a 
> seperate VRF and dampen them there or take similar steps to 
> segment, dampening leads directly to blackholes.  Even in that
> case, failover within that VRF wouldn't work, as all 
> implementations I've seen attack the prefix as the problem instead
> of the path vector. Bye-bye alternate paths.  

I guess what I'm hinting at is precisely something finer-grained (path not 
prefix), as you suggest. Per-neighbor enabled, versus "entire bgp RIB" would be 
preferred. I'm also interested in the *chronic* nature of these apparent 
instabilities. An average of one flap per minute could imply that the end-site 
is not getting allot of useful TCP moved, and as such, after something on the 
(n)-hour timescale, perhaps it's worth suppressing it.

So, I'd ask for a long-timescale dampening function, indexed against per-path, 
and enforced per neighbor. Perhaps as-path lists could be combined with relaxed 
timers on existing implementations to achieve this today (in a VRF 
target/context). 

-Tk

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