On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:22 PM, harbor235 wrote:

> Again, a firewall has it's place just like any other device in the network, 
> defense in >>> depth is a prudent philosophy to reduce the chances of 
> compromise, it does not >>>eliminate it nor does any architecture you can 
> think of, period

What a ridiculous statement - of course it does.

*The place of the stateful firewall is in front of clients, not servers*.  

I'm not going to continue the unequal contest of pitting real-world operational 
experience against Confused Information Systems Security Professional 
brainwashing.  One can spout all the buzzwords and catchphrases one wishes, but 
at the end of the day, it's all dead wrong - and anyone naive enough to fall 
for it is setting himself up for a world of hurt.

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