Per Dictionary.com: blackmail
-noun 1. any payment extorted by intimidation, as by threats of injurious revelations or accusations. 2. the extortion of such payment: He confessed rather than suffer the dishonor of blackmail. 3. a tribute formerly exacted in the north of England and in Scotland by freebooting chiefs for protection from pillage. -verb (used with object) 4. to extort money from (a person) by the use of threats. 5. to force or coerce into a particular action, statement, etc.: The strikers claimed they were blackmailed into signing the new contract. ... thus, this is not blackmail. Please thrown your grenades and run. :) - Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis [mailto:s...@cyberbunker.com] > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:25 PM > To: Joe Greco > Cc: Brian Johnson; North American Network Operators Group > Subject: Re: DMCA takedowns of networks > > > > Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing? > > > > Sure. Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose > their > > connectivity. > > which would be called "blackmail". > > sure, have the cops arrest the guy that actually runs the site or > uploaded > it onto the site, if they cannot (because it simply doesnt happen to be > illegal in the country where he resides) they are out of luck and have > to > live with it. > > furthermore, in any case, a proper court order specifically > mentioning the url, the customer, the right company out of our > christmastree of companies worldwide, etc would > be required as we dont plan to decide whats illegal and what not. > > ofcourse all of this only applies to "real crime". not to whining dmca > idiots, whom are criminals themselves. > > -- > > Sven Olaf Kamphuis > CB3ROB DataServices > > Phone: +31/87-8747479 > Skype: CB3ROB > MSN: s...@cb3rob.net > C.V.: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cb3rob > > Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this > email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged > and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or > individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > > So why are we having this discussion? > > > > > > > > Because it appears that HE took down non-infringing sites? > > > > > > > > Excuse me for stating the obvious. :-) > > > > > > > > ... JG > > > > -- > > > > Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - > > > > > > On the technical side of this question... > > > > > > Let's say that a customer is doing virtual hosting. So they have a > bunch > > > of sites (Let's say hundreds) on a single IP address. Given that > one of > > > the sites is misbehaving (use your own definition), how would a > provider > > > block the one site, without blocking others that share the same IP > > > address, without looking at every port 80 request and parsing for > the > > > header for the URL? > > > > > > Is there a better solution that doesn't require intrusive parsing? > > > > Sure. Tell the hoster they've got to shut it down, or else lose > their > > connectivity. > > > > Sometimes it can be both simple *and* obvious. > > > > ... JG > > -- > > Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - > http://www.sol.net > > "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance > [and] then I > > won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail > spam(CNN) > > With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many > apples. > > > > > > X-CONTACT-FILTER-MATCH: "nanog" > >
