The decision to filter networks should remain with the collective network operators. Everyone, even criminals, has a "right" to distribute content but it's up to each operator to decide if that content will be allowed to transit their network. Personally, if an entire /22 does not have a single legitimate resource on it in the case of 91.202.60.0/22 *and* is widely suspected of being owned/operated by a criminal enterprise then filtering makes sense.
Historically it takes a few pioneers to present a case for filtering specific networks before larger networks will begin to see the light. Jeff On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenb...@ripe.net> wrote: > On 24.10 03:05, Paul Bosworth wrote: >> I think the larger point is that ripe turned a blind eye to an >> internationally recognized criminal network. > > That may be a point but not a convincing one. > > Imagine the outcry on this list if ARIN were to deny some organisation > address space or ASNs just because they are "internationally recognised" > criminals. Wouldn't we demand a little more due process? > Especially since the alternatives are not as easy as walking to the > next fastfood joint. > > The RIPE NCC operates in a region where whole sovereign states call each > other criminals or worse on a daily basis. > > The only tenable position for each RIR is to strictly apply the > policies developed in its bottom-up self-regulatory process. Doing > anything else would require intervention via a proper legal process, > e.g. a *judge* with appropriate jurisdiction telling the RIR that > its actions are unlawful. > > Frustration is a bad advisor when trying to stop crime, unrelenting > application of due process is the only way ... frustrating as it may be. > > Daniel Karrenberg > Chief Scientist RIPE NCC > Speaking only for himself as is customary here. > > PS: This is old news, compare > http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-expert-calls-for-IP-address-ranges-of-criminal-providers-to-be-sent-direct-to-the-police-737905.html > > And see the press release that Marco pointed out. > > Daniel > > -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications of The IRC Company, Inc. Platinum sponsor of HostingCon 2010. Come to Austin, TX on July 19 - 21 to find out how to "protect your booty."
