Hello,

Here are the full outputs. I will also try the DNS mailing list.

Thanks for any help.
Serge

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dig www.atac.fr +trace +all +norecurse

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.atac.fr +trace +all +norecurse
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48292
;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 9

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;.                              IN      NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
.                       42476   IN      NS      I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
.                       42476   IN      NS      H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     591558  IN      A       192.33.4.12
L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     591185  IN      A       199.7.83.42
H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     590936  IN      A       128.63.2.53
B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     591097  IN      A       192.228.79.201
J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     128876  IN      A       192.58.128.30
J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     128876  IN      AAAA    2001:503:c27::2:30
F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     158903  IN      A       192.5.5.241
M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     591132  IN      A       202.12.27.33
A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     590997  IN      A       198.41.0.4

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 142.134.124.5#53(142.134.124.5)
;; WHEN: Mon Aug 17 14:31:40 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 384

;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61829
;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 8, ADDITIONAL: 12

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.atac.fr.                   IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      C.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      D.EXT.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      E.EXT.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      E.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      F.EXT.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      G.EXT.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      A.NIC.fr.
fr.                     172800  IN      NS      B.EXT.NIC.fr.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
A.NIC.fr.               172800  IN      A       192.93.0.129
A.NIC.fr.               172800  IN      AAAA    2001:660:3005:3::1:1
B.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      A       192.228.90.21
C.NIC.fr.               172800  IN      A       192.134.0.129
C.NIC.fr.               172800  IN      AAAA    2001:660:3006:4::1:1
D.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      A       204.152.184.85
D.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      AAAA    2001:4f8:0:2::8
E.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      A       193.176.144.6
E.NIC.fr.               172800  IN      A       194.57.253.1
F.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      A       194.146.106.46
G.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      A       204.61.216.39
G.EXT.NIC.fr.           172800  IN      AAAA    2001:500:14:6039:ad::1

;; Query time: 132 msec
;; SERVER: 192.36.148.17#53(I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET)
;; WHEN: Mon Aug 17 14:31:40 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 405

;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42308
;; flags: qr; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.atac.fr.                   IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
atac.fr.                172800  IN      NS      dns2.atac.fr.
atac.fr.                172800  IN      NS      dns.atac.fr.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.atac.fr.            172800  IN      A       62.160.25.65
dns2.atac.fr.           172800  IN      A       195.68.125.36

;; Query time: 108 msec
;; SERVER: 192.134.0.129#53(C.NIC.fr)
;; WHEN: Mon Aug 17 14:31:41 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 98

dig: couldn't get address for 'dns2.atac.fr': not found

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traceroute 195.68.125.36
traceroute to 195.68.125.36 (195.68.125.36), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x)  0.211 ms   0.201 ms   0.199 ms
 2  x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x)  1.103 ms   1.117 ms   0.872 ms
 3  xe-3-0-0.bx01.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.6)  21.330 ms   21.179 ms   
21.186 ms
 4  xe-9-2-0.edge2.Washington4.Level3.net (4.53.114.13)  21.203 ms   21.192 ms  
 21.267 ms
 5  vlan89.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.17.190)  32.834 ms 
vlan79.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.17.126)  34.681 ms   30.700 ms
 6  ae-64-64.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.177)  35.436 ms   32.659 ms  
 25.709 ms
 7  ae-3-3.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.132.94)  26.966 ms   26.866 ms   
26.734 ms
 8  ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.74)  27.338 ms   27.391 ms 
ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.70)  34.384 ms
 9  ae-1-69.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.14)  27.319 ms 
ae-3-89.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.142)  27.641 ms 
ae-2-79.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.78)  27.816 ms
10  COLT-TELECO.edge1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.78.132.22)  88.956 ms   89.076 ms  
 89.154 ms
11  212.74.85.1 (212.74.85.1)  104.463 ms   104.253 ms   104.851 ms
12  90.168-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com (84.14.168.90)  106.559 ms   107.168 ms   
106.853 ms
13  * * *

---No further responses


traceroute 62.160.25.65
traceroute to 62.160.25.65 (62.160.25.65), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  x.x.x.x. (x.x.x.x)  0.213 ms   0.202 ms   0.198 ms
 2  x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x)  1.601 ms   1.439 ms   0.743 ms
 3  xe-3-0-0.bx01.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.6)  21.251 ms   21.258 ms   
21.173 ms
 4  xe-9-2-0.edge2.Washington4.Level3.net (4.53.114.13)  21.251 ms   21.417 ms  
 21.375 ms
 5  vlan89.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.17.190)  22.518 ms 
vlan69.csw1.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.17.62)  24.455 ms 
vlan89.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.17.190)  22.144 ms
 6  ae-64-64.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.177)  30.684 ms 
ae-74-74.ebr4.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.181)  29.177 ms   27.076 ms
 7  ae-3-3.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.132.94)  26.891 ms   26.730 ms   
26.770 ms
 8  ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.66)  35.472 ms 
ae-91-91.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.78)  38.017 ms 
ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.70)  38.655 ms
 9  ae-4-99.edge2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.208)  27.428 ms   27.855 ms 
ae-1-69.edge2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.16.16)  27.529 ms
10  francetelecom-level3-te.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.111.86)  28.286 ms 
francetelecom-level3-te.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.111.82)  27.442 ms   27.764 ms
11  * * *
12  * * *

---No further responses



----- Original Message ----
From: Florian Weimer <fwei...@bfk.de>
To: Serge Vautour <se...@nbnet.nb.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:43:46 AM
Subject: Re: atac.fr DNS problem

* Serge Vautour:

> Hello,
>
> Our AS855 can't seem to contact the DNS servers for atac.fr domains 
> (dns.atac.fr [62.160.25.65] & dns2.atac.fr [195.68.125.36]). From our 
> network, dig dies for both IPs:

Please post full trace output, e.g. the result of "dig www.atac.fr
+trace +all +norecurse" if you still can reproduce the issue.

(Perhaps this topic is more suitable for the dns-operations mailing
list, BTW.)

-- 
Florian Weimer                <fwei...@bfk.de>
BFK edv-consulting GmbH      http://www.bfk.de/
Kriegsstraße 100              tel: +49-721-96201-1
D-76133 Karlsruhe             fax: +49-721-96201-99


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