I just wish I had the hook up at my local ISP (Armstrong).  They are currently 
running fiber to replace their Coax infrastructure, but they haven’t done it 
down my street yet.  I wish they would!

> On Dec 27, 2024, at 17:56, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> "The builder/owner is responsible for construction between the ROW/property 
> line and the building."
> 
> and to the ISP, that's the most expensive part of the equation. It should 
> would be nice to not be financially responsible for that.
> 
> 
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> From: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com>
> To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 4:36:36 PM
> Subject: Re[2]: New home builders without wires
> 
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Aaron Wendel wrote:
> > When I built my house a few years ago I put a 0 entry hand hole with 2" 
> > conduit in the ROW in front and pulled 96 SM into the basement.  It takes a 
> > little convincing to get the providers to connect out there instead of 
> > running their own lines into my house but so far so good.
> 
> Things I learned.
> 
> In USA, the provider DEMARC used to be at the building wall (i.e. 
> 12-inches minimum point of entry inside the building). Fiber 
> providers sometimes install the ONT inside the wiring structured 
> infrastructure cabinet instead on the building outside wall now.
> 
> In many other countries, the DEMARC is at the ROW/property line. Comparing 
> broadband techniques between countries. The builder/owner is responsible 
> for construction between the ROW/property line and the building.
> 
> But if the neighborhood builder/developer has no broadband providers 
> (coax, telco or fiber) in the ROW, it doesn't matter.
> 
> In OECD broadband statistics, USA ranks 15th out of 36 countries. France 
> and South Korea are #1 and #2.

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