I just wish I had the hook up at my local ISP (Armstrong). They are currently running fiber to replace their Coax infrastructure, but they haven’t done it down my street yet. I wish they would!
> On Dec 27, 2024, at 17:56, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > "The builder/owner is responsible for construction between the ROW/property > line and the building." > > and to the ISP, that's the most expensive part of the equation. It should > would be nice to not be financially responsible for that. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com> > To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 4:36:36 PM > Subject: Re[2]: New home builders without wires > > On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, Aaron Wendel wrote: > > When I built my house a few years ago I put a 0 entry hand hole with 2" > > conduit in the ROW in front and pulled 96 SM into the basement. It takes a > > little convincing to get the providers to connect out there instead of > > running their own lines into my house but so far so good. > > Things I learned. > > In USA, the provider DEMARC used to be at the building wall (i.e. > 12-inches minimum point of entry inside the building). Fiber > providers sometimes install the ONT inside the wiring structured > infrastructure cabinet instead on the building outside wall now. > > In many other countries, the DEMARC is at the ROW/property line. Comparing > broadband techniques between countries. The builder/owner is responsible > for construction between the ROW/property line and the building. > > But if the neighborhood builder/developer has no broadband providers > (coax, telco or fiber) in the ROW, it doesn't matter. > > In OECD broadband statistics, USA ranks 15th out of 36 countries. France > and South Korea are #1 and #2.