Yes, yes, yes and yes
J~ > On Dec 5, 2024, at 12:10 PM, Compton, Rich <rich_comp...@comcast.com> wrote: > > “I strongly recommend to turn off those BGP optimizers, glue the ports shut, > burn the hardware, and salt the grounds on which the BGP optimizer sales > people walked.” > > -Job Snijders > > https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2017-August/092131.html > > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+rich_compton=comcast....@nanog.org> on behalf of > Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> > Date: Thursday, December 5, 2024 at 12:24 PM > To: Jason Bothe <jbo...@me.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs? > > IIRC, the widespread outages are the result of exporting things that > shouldn't be exported. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ics-il.com__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!GFUnuA6qE7A0AePY8rTtMX8Ll2VP7FK-FJTDkvkdwhlRmzqhmEA7Dat58fBwUk9jdLbHKhdSYEBil7VttQ$> > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.midwest-ix.com__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!GFUnuA6qE7A0AePY8rTtMX8Ll2VP7FK-FJTDkvkdwhlRmzqhmEA7Dat58fBwUk9jdLbHKhdSYEAsGopkmw$> > > From: "Jason Bothe via NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > To: "Drew Weaver" <drew.wea...@thenap.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:03:39 AM > Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs? > > WIth merchant silicon getting faster and stronger everyday, and capacity and > transit in a freewill, I’m not sure what GPU optimization would buy you, not > to mention the ROI. The Internet routing table is not showing substantial > signs of growth and in some cases has experienced a plateau. Also, the > experience with ‘route optimization tools’ is that while they may bring you > some priority in your traffic, they are also known for making horrible > decisions resulting in widespread outages. > > J~ > > > On Dec 5, 2024, at 8:13 AM, Drew Weaver <drew.wea...@thenap.com> wrote: > > So back in the.. hell I don’t know like… early 2010s there was a push for > ‘route optimization’ from products like RouteScience and the Avaya CNA and > more recently whatever Noction is doing. > > The big pain point for this technology at the time was that it could only > optimize the top N egress routes due to how many probes it could send out and > how many results it could process. > > It seems like now with a modest GPU in a router you could pretty easily > ‘optimize’ [to the extent that you believe this technology worked] pretty > much the whole routing table. > > We used these tools extensively back then and they actually worked pretty > well in most cases. The biggest issue we ran into was people complaining that > we pinged their IP addresses… which now a days seems like a great worst > problem to have. > > Anyway is anyone doing any work on implementing GPUs into the BGP decision > making process? Seems like a no brainer. > > -Drew > >
